Google shipped a new thing last night, called Latitude. I already put it on my cell phone. It lets me tell my friends where I am. Pretty cool, right.
But today’s Yahoo announcement of Search Pad should have gotten more hype, but it won’t. As I type this at 7:35 a.m. my old boss, Vic Gundotra, who now is VP of Engineering at Google, solidly has hold of the top spot on Techmeme. Yahoo’s announcement shouldn’t threaten it. First, since you probably haven’t heard of Yahoo’s Search Pad, here’s what it does:
Let’s say you are heading to Austin for the SXSW conference next month. If you were using Yahoo’s search engine (hint: most SXSW’rs haven’t been on Yahoo in months) it would notice that you’re doing a variety of associated searches about Austin. It would save those into a new kind of notebook. Or, if it didn’t notice for some reason that you’re looking for Austin hotels, Austin BBQ, Austin restaurants, fun things to do in Austin, etc, you could start your own Search Pad and copy and paste Web pages into it.
On the surface of it Yahoo’s innovation is the kind of thing that would have early adopters like me slobbering all over myself to tell you about.
But I’m not. Here’s why:
1. When Google released Latitude last night it was available to everyone. I never even heard about Latitude from Google until the press release came into my Gmail account and when I clicked the link to try it out it all worked and I instantly told my friends on friendfeed about it and they all tried it out too and we had a big conversation about it. When Yahoo releases Search Pad today? It’s not available to everyone. Only randomly-selected people. I can’t force it on. I can’t test it. We can’t talk about it.
2. When Google released Latitude it might not have been the biggest idea, but it was aimed at a shifting paradigm: mobile phone users. Yahoo’s Search Pad? Aimed at old school web users. These people are not being forced to change their behaviors, so will be tougher to convince to try anything new. Let’s face it, if you get a new iPhone, you are going to try a TON of new things compared to the web. That’s a paradigm shift and hype comes with things that latch onto paradigm shifts.
3. When Google releases things it usually has some goodies for alpha geeks. There’s usually an API, or an advanced feature or two that only people who read Stack Overflow, Scripting News, or Life Hacker can appreciate. Yahoo’s announcement this morning? No such thing. Google’s announcement? Has tons of language that appeals to early adopters. When I interviewed Yahoo’s Tom Che, Senior Director of Product Management yesterday he admitted they were going after everyday users with Search Pad. When I asked him if I could bundle up a bunch of things in a Search Pad and forward them to Twitter, the answer was “no.” When I asked him if I could get a URL to the Search Pad, the answer was “no.” When I asked him if I could share a Search Pad with my friends, the answer was “no.” When I asked him if it would work with Google’s search engine (sorry, most of us won’t switch to Yahoo) the answer was “not really.” (You can manually enter things into a Yahoo Search Pad that you’ve found on Google, but it won’t automatically build a Search Pad for you the way it would if you were over on Yahoo’s search engine).
So, excuse me if, when you see me doing interviews today in San Francisco (I have a ton of them), I am much more excited about Google’s future than Yahoo’s future. Yahoo doesn’t get it: to get its stock price to go up and to get people like me to get excited about its future they need to care about early adopters. It’s clear they don’t care, so why should I?
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Clearly, a case of one tech company that’s clearly lost touch with what matters, and who their target audience should be… That and the fact that they’re probably just too old and mature to be doing “selective” beta’s at this point, straight after Googles big announcement.. It’s like releasing two top records in the same week. The one that’s already popular will no doubt stay on top 😉
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There is a reason Yahoo! has to change their CEOs every 2 months and Google getting close to world domination. You are right. Yahoo! does not get it.
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Clearly, a case of one tech company that’s clearly lost touch with what matters, and who their target audience should be… That and the fact that they’re probably just too old and mature to be doing “selective” beta’s at this point, straight after Googles big announcement.. It’s like releasing two top records in the same week. The one that’s already popular will no doubt stay on top 😉
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There is a reason Yahoo! has to change their CEOs every 2 months and Google getting close to world domination. You are right. Yahoo! does not get it.
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Spot on, Robert!
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Spot on, Robert!
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Search Pad looks like it will be very useful to many people, Google Latitude while cool will frighten many people.
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Search Pad looks like it will be very useful to many people, Google Latitude while cool will frighten many people.
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I’m surprised at your obvious bias in this post comparing Google’s Latitude with Yahoo’s Search Pad. Looking at both products from an unbiased user perspective, I completely disagree with your assessment. Yahoo’s Search Pad is an extremely innovative and useful application that will certainly save time and improve the search engine experience. I believe an application like Search Pad will help Yahoo attract new users from Google.
No, I do not work for Yahoo. In fact, I primarily use Google for my searches, but the Search Pad could persuade me to switch to Yahoo.
I’m sorry Yahoo didn’t give you the answers you were looking for, but from an application standpoint I your buddy at Google is slapping his forehead saying, “Darn, I wish I had thought of that.”
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I’m surprised at your obvious bias in this post comparing Google’s Latitude with Yahoo’s Search Pad. Looking at both products from an unbiased user perspective, I completely disagree with your assessment. Yahoo’s Search Pad is an extremely innovative and useful application that will certainly save time and improve the search engine experience. I believe an application like Search Pad will help Yahoo attract new users from Google.
No, I do not work for Yahoo. In fact, I primarily use Google for my searches, but the Search Pad could persuade me to switch to Yahoo.
I’m sorry Yahoo didn’t give you the answers you were looking for, but from an application standpoint I your buddy at Google is slapping his forehead saying, “Darn, I wish I had thought of that.”
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I just checked out the Yahoo! ‘sneak peek’ video for Search Pad. It looks pretty good to me, and I could certainly see uses. Maybe the ‘availability’ of the launch isn’t terribly savvy, but I think the “don’t care” comment is maybe just a tad harsh? This looks pretty reasonable, so let’s not be too quick to kill it off. As for Latitude, I don’t think it should scare anyone. It’s an opt-in service, and it tracks the phone not the person (i.e. I don’t see Latitude location being viable for alibis).
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I just checked out the Yahoo! ‘sneak peek’ video for Search Pad. It looks pretty good to me, and I could certainly see uses. Maybe the ‘availability’ of the launch isn’t terribly savvy, but I think the “don’t care” comment is maybe just a tad harsh? This looks pretty reasonable, so let’s not be too quick to kill it off. As for Latitude, I don’t think it should scare anyone. It’s an opt-in service, and it tracks the phone not the person (i.e. I don’t see Latitude location being viable for alibis).
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Search Pad looks like Zotero: http://www.zotero.org/ I can’t wait until Latitude comes out for the iPhone!!
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Search Pad looks like Zotero: http://www.zotero.org/ I can’t wait until Latitude comes out for the iPhone!!
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“Yahoo doesn’t get it: to get its stock price to go up and to get people like me to get excited about its future they need to care about early adopters. It’s clear they don’t care, so why should I?”
Wow, someone sounds a little sore because some company didn’t give the Almighty Scoble a gift bag for the new launch. Someone needs a little bit of pampering eh?
Scoble = Arrington?
The world doesn’t revolve around early adopters and it certainly doesn’t revolve around you Scoble. You and your FriendFeed can Like all the stories you want.
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“Yahoo doesn’t get it: to get its stock price to go up and to get people like me to get excited about its future they need to care about early adopters. It’s clear they don’t care, so why should I?”
Wow, someone sounds a little sore because some company didn’t give the Almighty Scoble a gift bag for the new launch. Someone needs a little bit of pampering eh?
Scoble = Arrington?
The world doesn’t revolve around early adopters and it certainly doesn’t revolve around you Scoble. You and your FriendFeed can Like all the stories you want.
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It seems like execution is an issue.
– Google moves fast and gets it right, often.
– Yahoo moves slowly, and gets it wrong.
– Microsoft evolves.
Check out the photo profile for the honorable Mr. Scoble. Note the photo search using Google, Yahoo, Live, and FlickR. Google gets it right, most of the time.
BTW, Media Life is compiling the top 1000 personalities, just for fun. We could use some help with name suggestions.
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It seems like execution is an issue.
– Google moves fast and gets it right, often.
– Yahoo moves slowly, and gets it wrong.
– Microsoft evolves.
Check out the photo profile for the honorable Mr. Scoble. Note the photo search using Google, Yahoo, Live, and FlickR. Google gets it right, most of the time.
BTW, Media Life is compiling the top 1000 personalities, just for fun. We could use some help with name suggestions.
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Thanks for the information about Latitude Robert – it is one of those leaps as you say above. I hope people “get it” because the potential is huge. Huge.
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Thanks for the information about Latitude Robert – it is one of those leaps as you say above. I hope people “get it” because the potential is huge. Huge.
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SearchPad is useful for both consumers as business people.
This appeals to people and people will understand how to use it.
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SearchPad is useful for both consumers as business people.
This appeals to people and people will understand how to use it.
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Seems like Yahoo completely misses the point of product launches. At the very least let everyone have a go at it so the news can spread virally. An internet maketer worth his salt knows how to do this. It is not like Yahoo has not been around long enough to know how to handle things. I am very suprised as thsi amateurish way they are behaving.
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Seems like Yahoo completely misses the point of product launches. At the very least let everyone have a go at it so the news can spread virally. An internet maketer worth his salt knows how to do this. It is not like Yahoo has not been around long enough to know how to handle things. I am very suprised as thsi amateurish way they are behaving.
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My iphone is currently pleading for this…get to work Google!
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My iphone is currently pleading for this…get to work Google!
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Robert,
Have you checked out Whhrl.com? It is a similar app to latitude from a startup in Seattle (Pelago) that has better integration with twitter and facebook.
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Robert,
Have you checked out Whhrl.com? It is a similar app to latitude from a startup in Seattle (Pelago) that has better integration with twitter and facebook.
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I didn’t know about yahoo’s search pad… I saw the video. It looked very cool. But I am yet to try it…
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I didn’t know about yahoo’s search pad… I saw the video. It looked very cool. But I am yet to try it…
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“Google, solidly has hold of the top spot on Techmeme. Yahoo’s announcement shouldn’t threaten it.”
Now a few hours later, Yahoo Search Pad does have the top spot at Techmeme. Google Latitude is four spots below it.
Haha, but I agree with most of your criticism of Yahoo’s approach.
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“Google, solidly has hold of the top spot on Techmeme. Yahoo’s announcement shouldn’t threaten it.”
Now a few hours later, Yahoo Search Pad does have the top spot at Techmeme. Google Latitude is four spots below it.
Haha, but I agree with most of your criticism of Yahoo’s approach.
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If you saw the interview with Marcus Frind in Inc magazine, you’d perhaps get the Yahoo mindset. He made Plenty of Fish, an online dating site w/ 10M year in revenues and 3 employees besides himself. He ignores feature requests from his users, arguing that they are mostly made by a fringe and teh mainstream don’t care for this.
I’d say those two groups map well to geek early tech adopters and the rest of the world. Yahoo may be trying to go direct to the mainstream.
Of course, they are screwing up by introducing friction into the process as you noted so well.
Interesting post!
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If you saw the interview with Marcus Frind in Inc magazine, you’d perhaps get the Yahoo mindset. He made Plenty of Fish, an online dating site w/ 10M year in revenues and 3 employees besides himself. He ignores feature requests from his users, arguing that they are mostly made by a fringe and teh mainstream don’t care for this.
I’d say those two groups map well to geek early tech adopters and the rest of the world. Yahoo may be trying to go direct to the mainstream.
Of course, they are screwing up by introducing friction into the process as you noted so well.
Interesting post!
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Gab: I was the first blogger to interview Marcus Frind and admire him a lot. He listens to his community. Don’t believe him when he says he does not. A good designer, though, does not listen to certain kinds of feedback. I keep remembering Jim Fawcette’s words to me: ask a Porsche owner what they want and they’ll ask for things like smoother ride, more trunk space, more leg room, etc. “Well,” he told me, “they just designed a Volvo.”
The trick is to design something your users need, not what they tell you they want. But don’t ever think that Marcus isn’t in tune with his users. That guy is brilliant and understands his users better than anyone else I’ve ever met.
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Gab: I was the first blogger to interview Marcus Frind and admire him a lot. He listens to his community. Don’t believe him when he says he does not. A good designer, though, does not listen to certain kinds of feedback. I keep remembering Jim Fawcette’s words to me: ask a Porsche owner what they want and they’ll ask for things like smoother ride, more trunk space, more leg room, etc. “Well,” he told me, “they just designed a Volvo.”
The trick is to design something your users need, not what they tell you they want. But don’t ever think that Marcus isn’t in tune with his users. That guy is brilliant and understands his users better than anyone else I’ve ever met.
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Agree SearchPad should at least be available for anyone to test – much like Google Labs does for experimental search stuff.
But reason #4 SearchPad didn’t get as much buzz is simply that our (tech blogs) readers simply don’t care as much about Yahoo stories as Google stories, unless of course it’s negative company news from Yahoo (CEO, layoffs, leaked memos, etc)
I spent a couple hours between interview and writing about a neat new technology like SearchPad and got little interest, and it looks like that was the case on most blogs that covered it with depth. On the other hand, a quick story and analysis about Google News adding a widget (yesterday) performs great.
My goal is to cover all that’s new and interesting – but given limited time and the choice between a Yahoo product and a Google product, I’ll write about the Google one, because it will get more interest from readers every time according to just about every metric.
Which, gets back to your other points about Yahoo having major brand and cultural issues to overcome 🙂
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Agree SearchPad should at least be available for anyone to test – much like Google Labs does for experimental search stuff.
But reason #4 SearchPad didn’t get as much buzz is simply that our (tech blogs) readers simply don’t care as much about Yahoo stories as Google stories, unless of course it’s negative company news from Yahoo (CEO, layoffs, leaked memos, etc)
I spent a couple hours between interview and writing about a neat new technology like SearchPad and got little interest, and it looks like that was the case on most blogs that covered it with depth. On the other hand, a quick story and analysis about Google News adding a widget (yesterday) performs great.
My goal is to cover all that’s new and interesting – but given limited time and the choice between a Yahoo product and a Google product, I’ll write about the Google one, because it will get more interest from readers every time according to just about every metric.
Which, gets back to your other points about Yahoo having major brand and cultural issues to overcome 🙂
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Thanks for your post, Robert. Sorry that I didn’t answer all the questions in the way that you had hoped — we valued your feedback and will definitely consider it.
As for why we designed it the way we did, we motivated most decisions on problems that we saw our customers having. While it’s pretty trivial to add some of the features you asked for, we decided to do less for the clarity of letting users start simple. Even the advanced detection science was created in the name of having users think less about the tool and more about the tasks are trying to accomplish.
Thanks again for talking with us, and we would welcome hearing your thoughts on a later revision. Also appreciate your article for pointing out some different attitudes toward innovation that are out there. Our innovation is extremely customer-focused, and for whatever reason most of our customers didn’t need an API for SearchPad in version 1. 🙂
Anyhow, keep up the great discussion!
Tom Chi
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Thanks for your post, Robert. Sorry that I didn’t answer all the questions in the way that you had hoped — we valued your feedback and will definitely consider it.
As for why we designed it the way we did, we motivated most decisions on problems that we saw our customers having. While it’s pretty trivial to add some of the features you asked for, we decided to do less for the clarity of letting users start simple. Even the advanced detection science was created in the name of having users think less about the tool and more about the tasks are trying to accomplish.
Thanks again for talking with us, and we would welcome hearing your thoughts on a later revision. Also appreciate your article for pointing out some different attitudes toward innovation that are out there. Our innovation is extremely customer-focused, and for whatever reason most of our customers didn’t need an API for SearchPad in version 1. 🙂
Anyhow, keep up the great discussion!
Tom Chi
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Maybe they want do want “smoother ride, more trunk space, more leg room” and yet still a heavy horsepower Porsche. Maybe they want SPI Sledghammer bolt-on performance package styled output, 1000 hp at the crank, yet smooth, with stretch room. Just because they want extras, doesn’t mean they want to transform into a boring V8, 311 hp Volvo.
Wanting power does not cancel out convenience. A smoother, roomier Porsche does not equal a boxy low hp Volvo.
A Porsche designer that creates a Volvo is beyond insane, and at a certain point ceases to be a Porsche designer, and that’s where the metaphor breaks down, as you are proposing an impossibility as a possibility, and factoring the absurd as a probability. It doesn’t work.
Let me put it another way, if I want a cooler 3D look desktop GUI for Windows, with more “leg room and trunk space” that runs smoother, that doesn’t mean I want Mac OS or KDE.
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Maybe they want do want “smoother ride, more trunk space, more leg room” and yet still a heavy horsepower Porsche. Maybe they want SPI Sledghammer bolt-on performance package styled output, 1000 hp at the crank, yet smooth, with stretch room. Just because they want extras, doesn’t mean they want to transform into a boring V8, 311 hp Volvo.
Wanting power does not cancel out convenience. A smoother, roomier Porsche does not equal a boxy low hp Volvo.
A Porsche designer that creates a Volvo is beyond insane, and at a certain point ceases to be a Porsche designer, and that’s where the metaphor breaks down, as you are proposing an impossibility as a possibility, and factoring the absurd as a probability. It doesn’t work.
Let me put it another way, if I want a cooler 3D look desktop GUI for Windows, with more “leg room and trunk space” that runs smoother, that doesn’t mean I want Mac OS or KDE.
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Again Robert you miss the Android connection..even Europe Mobile Industry Pubs have noticed the Android connection..
The Android Connection is this..what is the easiest way to convince say Verizon or AT&T Mobility to deploy Android handsets? Remember the MOS have already heard the T-Mobile results about the data plan usage climbing by 400% with Android.
A compelling GPS consumer application.
By the way, my Xspot Android app will be using the new Google Map features found in Google Latitude..and I am being interviewed by the Mobile Industry press about this..:)
You see Mike Arrington last August was right about Android..
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Again Robert you miss the Android connection..even Europe Mobile Industry Pubs have noticed the Android connection..
The Android Connection is this..what is the easiest way to convince say Verizon or AT&T Mobility to deploy Android handsets? Remember the MOS have already heard the T-Mobile results about the data plan usage climbing by 400% with Android.
A compelling GPS consumer application.
By the way, my Xspot Android app will be using the new Google Map features found in Google Latitude..and I am being interviewed by the Mobile Industry press about this..:)
You see Mike Arrington last August was right about Android..
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I am based in Paris, and Google Latitude is not available today. Says Coming Soon on my iPhone, and it had no idea where I was when I used the web-based version. Tsk tsk
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I am based in Paris, and Google Latitude is not available today. Says Coming Soon on my iPhone, and it had no idea where I was when I used the web-based version. Tsk tsk
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About Google Latitude _________
When made? It’s very similar LOVE SEACH DREAMBOAT
what I have made~! Come to see ~!
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About Google Latitude _________
When made? It’s very similar LOVE SEACH DREAMBOAT
what I have made~! Come to see ~!
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About Google Latitude _________
When made? It’s very similar LOVE SEACH DREAMBOAT
what I have made~! Come to see ~!
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About Google Latitude _________
When made? It’s very similar LOVE SEACH DREAMBOAT
what I have made~! Come to see ~!
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All good points, though I would add that Google sometimes is falling short on moving the ball forward from early adopters to mainstream adoption (e.g. with Google Notebook). Engineering-centric “build it and they will come” is quite often simply not enough anymore in today’s attention economy.
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All good points, though I would add that Google sometimes is falling short on moving the ball forward from early adopters to mainstream adoption (e.g. with Google Notebook). Engineering-centric “build it and they will come” is quite often simply not enough anymore in today’s attention economy.
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Sorry to inform that Gmaps 3 with Lattitude is not performing well att the moment. Att present it is a miss and old maps was better….
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Sorry to inform that Gmaps 3 with Lattitude is not performing well att the moment. Att present it is a miss and old maps was better….
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funny thing … the updated version of Google Maps (that includes the Latitude features) is not YET available on the G1 phone …. we’re talking about _THE_ Google Phone …. not yet available on THE Google Phone … now that’s funny!
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funny thing … the updated version of Google Maps (that includes the Latitude features) is not YET available on the G1 phone …. we’re talking about _THE_ Google Phone …. not yet available on THE Google Phone … now that’s funny!
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FAIL! not available for iPhone .. hardly available to everyone Mr Scoble !
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FAIL! not available for iPhone .. hardly available to everyone Mr Scoble !
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This is hell of a great post. I absolutely love your way of thinking and the things you asked to Yahoo’s. This can be applied to so many things in this internet world! You made my day 🙂
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This is hell of a great post. I absolutely love your way of thinking and the things you asked to Yahoo’s. This can be applied to so many things in this internet world! You made my day 🙂
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Google has really seperated itself from yahoo. There is a reason marketers place such importance on getting to the top of that google page. You just can’t say the same for the yahoo search engine.
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Google has really seperated itself from yahoo. There is a reason marketers place such importance on getting to the top of that google page. You just can’t say the same for the yahoo search engine.
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Yup, is true.. Very good post.
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Yup, is true.. Very good post.
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Robert,
I was totally blind-sided by your critique — in a good way! I hopped over to watch both videos.
I agree with your bottom line (yaye for Latitude, meh for Search Pad), but for different reasons.
Yahoo’s effort reminds me of all those bouncing paperclips in Microsoft Word, trying to launch a Wizard while I’m doing something else. I could see it becoming very annoying. Also, like you (I guess), I’m not a big Yahoo search fan, so getting an application that sits on a search engine I’m not using is like reading about the stereo system for a golf cart when I don’t golf.
Google, on the other hand, is going for the jugular against Apple. Yes, they’re doing a platform independent super savvy social media internet smart phone application — and then also connecting it with desktop users who also don’t need a specific platform.
Oddly, iPhones and iPod touches aren’t included in the launch. I don’t know if that’s strategic, but I bet it will be very interesting when tech evangelthusiasts like you start the meme off at warp speed. Latitude will spread in a viral fashion because it’s open to everyone.
The thing I don’t like about either application is that they are going back to having an account requirement. I have a Gmail account, but it’s an account where I receive junk email and newsletters and everything non-personal. I’ve never bothered synching my Gmail contacts because Gmail is pretty lousy understanding who is a friend and who is a vendor.
Thanks for pointing them both out. Trying them out tonight!
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Robert,
I was totally blind-sided by your critique — in a good way! I hopped over to watch both videos.
I agree with your bottom line (yaye for Latitude, meh for Search Pad), but for different reasons.
Yahoo’s effort reminds me of all those bouncing paperclips in Microsoft Word, trying to launch a Wizard while I’m doing something else. I could see it becoming very annoying. Also, like you (I guess), I’m not a big Yahoo search fan, so getting an application that sits on a search engine I’m not using is like reading about the stereo system for a golf cart when I don’t golf.
Google, on the other hand, is going for the jugular against Apple. Yes, they’re doing a platform independent super savvy social media internet smart phone application — and then also connecting it with desktop users who also don’t need a specific platform.
Oddly, iPhones and iPod touches aren’t included in the launch. I don’t know if that’s strategic, but I bet it will be very interesting when tech evangelthusiasts like you start the meme off at warp speed. Latitude will spread in a viral fashion because it’s open to everyone.
The thing I don’t like about either application is that they are going back to having an account requirement. I have a Gmail account, but it’s an account where I receive junk email and newsletters and everything non-personal. I’ve never bothered synching my Gmail contacts because Gmail is pretty lousy understanding who is a friend and who is a vendor.
Thanks for pointing them both out. Trying them out tonight!
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Yo. Mr Scoble.
Yahoo actually makes (or at least made) superior products. They just don’t release them well….their go to market is horrid. Maybe this is what you were trying to say by them being focused on old school web users. Think about the superior apps Yahoo has written since 02’ish, how far they were in front of Google.
Search pad will be another great example. Solid, very cool little plug-in that won’t go anywhere. They just don’t seem to produce products and then create a trend that pulls them into the market.
I can tell you one trend that will be created from all of this. Office space where location based social network companies live will be available on the ‘cheap’ in a few months…every one of them just said SH*T.
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Yo. Mr Scoble.
Yahoo actually makes (or at least made) superior products. They just don’t release them well….their go to market is horrid. Maybe this is what you were trying to say by them being focused on old school web users. Think about the superior apps Yahoo has written since 02’ish, how far they were in front of Google.
Search pad will be another great example. Solid, very cool little plug-in that won’t go anywhere. They just don’t seem to produce products and then create a trend that pulls them into the market.
I can tell you one trend that will be created from all of this. Office space where location based social network companies live will be available on the ‘cheap’ in a few months…every one of them just said SH*T.
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I really like SearchPad. It’s quite useful. I think that Yahoo has been falling behind Google for a while. They just don’t seem to have as many innovations as Google has. That’s why Google is everywhere now.
Thanks for the great post.
Misty Faucheux
Social Media/Community Relations Manager, Viscape.com
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I really like SearchPad. It’s quite useful. I think that Yahoo has been falling behind Google for a while. They just don’t seem to have as many innovations as Google has. That’s why Google is everywhere now.
Thanks for the great post.
Misty Faucheux
Social Media/Community Relations Manager, Viscape.com
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Interesting point. For sure this kind of release like Yahoo isn’t starting well.
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Interesting point. For sure this kind of release like Yahoo isn’t starting well.
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another virtual technologhy come with a half hearth and half common sense of business people,make yahoo alway away behind the google club ‘I found latitude 2 days ago on my gmail account”so far ,with my little test I found no problem ,but I will try deep further to know the limit of this new things however
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another virtual technologhy come with a half hearth and half common sense of business people,make yahoo alway away behind the google club ‘I found latitude 2 days ago on my gmail account”so far ,with my little test I found no problem ,but I will try deep further to know the limit of this new things however
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This entire article got lost for my cause I was just obsessing about telling the world where I am… WHy is that a good thing?? Big brother is watching and soon the world will be a real BladeRunner or that movie that was always tracking everyone like virtual cop stalkers. Eek! Get that off your phone immediately!!
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This entire article got lost for my cause I was just obsessing about telling the world where I am… WHy is that a good thing?? Big brother is watching and soon the world will be a real BladeRunner or that movie that was always tracking everyone like virtual cop stalkers. Eek! Get that off your phone immediately!!
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This is a case about worrying over nothing. Google is currently champ. Yahoo is probably riding on old glories and heading downhill pretty rapidly. They will survive and thrive. I’m glad MS did not acquire Yahoo, even though that episode is still not quite over. Yahoo is still a great company and puts out good stuff.
I’m a techie and I have all the gadgets and gizmos. I have a web-enabled phone with all the bells and whistles, I have a couple of nice laptops, an Xbox and a Wii. I’m still not impressed with surfing the net on a handheld gadget, no matter how useful. The most useful thing I use my phone for is texting and occaisionally looking at a map or seeing what’s on at the theater if I’m on a date or something.
Google scares me a little bit. They’re getting too big way too fast and they need a serious competitor, but they’re like MS — way too entrenched for too long — that anyone who does come around better offer a whole lot of cool stuff that’s a real paradigm shift. Latitude is cool, but it’s not all that.
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This is a case about worrying over nothing. Google is currently champ. Yahoo is probably riding on old glories and heading downhill pretty rapidly. They will survive and thrive. I’m glad MS did not acquire Yahoo, even though that episode is still not quite over. Yahoo is still a great company and puts out good stuff.
I’m a techie and I have all the gadgets and gizmos. I have a web-enabled phone with all the bells and whistles, I have a couple of nice laptops, an Xbox and a Wii. I’m still not impressed with surfing the net on a handheld gadget, no matter how useful. The most useful thing I use my phone for is texting and occaisionally looking at a map or seeing what’s on at the theater if I’m on a date or something.
Google scares me a little bit. They’re getting too big way too fast and they need a serious competitor, but they’re like MS — way too entrenched for too long — that anyone who does come around better offer a whole lot of cool stuff that’s a real paradigm shift. Latitude is cool, but it’s not all that.
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Latitude got a plug in the Sunday Times (UK) today so uptake in the UK should be good.
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Latitude got a plug in the Sunday Times (UK) today so uptake in the UK should be good.
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Yahoo puts out a lot of stuff thats not really available. Like the “Small Business Billing” number they sent me in response to a complaint I filed with the BBB (they charged my card ($34.95) for a ($2.99) domain I canceled).
So Yahoo mails me a letter instructing me to “contact the following number: 1-866 800-8092. I call, only to hear a “No Live Support is available at this number” recording. WTF!!
Yahoo is not out to launch, their Out To Lunch! What a bunch of F#cking yahoos!
BTW, The wording in the letter itself is classic criminal corp. double-speak.
“All Yahoo! Domain customers agree to auto-renewal until canceled. Our Billing department has closed this service for Mr. Rallins. He will still have service through the remainder of the paid period. Per our Terms of Service, no refunds will be issued…”
Translation: When you buy a domain through Yahoo there’s a auto-renewal clause in the TOS so you can’t cancel a domain you “agreed” to auto-renew. So while we have closed service for you, we will continue to “service” your account as long as it is paid.
Result: Yahoo “auto-renewed” the same canceled domain for three years, changing amounts charged to circumvent the set price renewal block my bank used. Last month, I had to cancel my card and close my account just to stop Yahoo from milking me indefinitely.
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Yahoo puts out a lot of stuff thats not really available. Like the “Small Business Billing” number they sent me in response to a complaint I filed with the BBB (they charged my card ($34.95) for a ($2.99) domain I canceled).
So Yahoo mails me a letter instructing me to “contact the following number: 1-866 800-8092. I call, only to hear a “No Live Support is available at this number” recording. WTF!!
Yahoo is not out to launch, their Out To Lunch! What a bunch of F#cking yahoos!
BTW, The wording in the letter itself is classic criminal corp. double-speak.
“All Yahoo! Domain customers agree to auto-renewal until canceled. Our Billing department has closed this service for Mr. Rallins. He will still have service through the remainder of the paid period. Per our Terms of Service, no refunds will be issued…”
Translation: When you buy a domain through Yahoo there’s a auto-renewal clause in the TOS so you can’t cancel a domain you “agreed” to auto-renew. So while we have closed service for you, we will continue to “service” your account as long as it is paid.
Result: Yahoo “auto-renewed” the same canceled domain for three years, changing amounts charged to circumvent the set price renewal block my bank used. Last month, I had to cancel my card and close my account just to stop Yahoo from milking me indefinitely.
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I agree with you except to the extent that the iPhone support is crucial for latitute.
I got the invite to join on my iPhone via email, and when I opened it up, it said ‘Coming Soon.’
To me, the Google launch was diminished by this–you can bet a set if iPhone users would have added fuel to the adoption fire.
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I agree with you except to the extent that the iPhone support is crucial for latitute.
I got the invite to join on my iPhone via email, and when I opened it up, it said ‘Coming Soon.’
To me, the Google launch was diminished by this–you can bet a set if iPhone users would have added fuel to the adoption fire.
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