Adobe tonight announced an Office Suite largely focused around a new version of Acrobat. TechCrunch has a good post on the new stuff that just shipped.
Look at what Eric Rice just told us: “I just went to Acrobat.com and played with Adobe’s online office suite. Holy crap. That ConnectNow is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.”
Or, look at what Jim Stanger just said “Yep! Folks at the office are gonna like this, no doubt. I love it when these services help me be the Big Damn Hero!”
This is an important announcement, but don’t miss the bigger thing that’s going on.
The way we all work together is seeing HUGE changes and the changes are coming from all over, not from one place or once company the way that the changes did in the 1980s where stuff designed at Xerox PARC became the Macintosh and Microsoft Word (that was designed at Xerox, go back and look it up). In the 1990s the world of work was controlled largely by Microsoft after its Office Suite became THE WAY we all worked together (and still largely is).
But the changes that are going on now?
Well, for that, you have to try some of the stuff on the Office 2.0 database or you have to see how the workplace itself is changing thanks to movements like coworking. Not to mention that mobile devices are making work much different. Everytime a plane I’m on lands I see that revolution up front and close as people switch on iPhones and Blackberries to get back in touch with their coworkers. Real-time web services like Twitter, Facebook, Plaxo, Pownce, Jaiku, and LinkedIn are having even other changes on how we work.
My email is showing me that, for many of you, these changes have already happened. But when I look at what people are doing in airports I see that most business people have no clue about any of these changes. For them we’re living in the future and they don’t even know it yet.
Soon people just won’t put up with a Word Processor that costs hundreds of dollars and isn’t collaborative. They won’t put up with a presentation program that can’t deal with photos from Flickr. They won’t handle a sales database that doesn’t run in the Web browser.
So, congratulations Adobe for pushing us further into this new world of work. What a week this will be.
More on this topic on Thursday when we start a new show on the future of work on FastCompany.tv. Who is the first guest? The guy who runs the PARC lab today for Xerox. Who is the second guest? The guy who does the Office 2.0 database linked to above. And you.
Scobleizer 
Snap, I just did a post about Adobes offering as well.
Totally agree that work is undergoing big changes. For some it’s bigger than others. The more offerings like this from Adobe that come out the more it will change. Adobe have done a very nice job with a very slick product.
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Snap, I just did a post about Adobes offering as well.
Totally agree that work is undergoing big changes. For some it’s bigger than others. The more offerings like this from Adobe that come out the more it will change. Adobe have done a very nice job with a very slick product.
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i hope they have solved the problem of speed and usability on the avaerge pc and not the latest quadcore monsters.
Acrobat pro is a very cranky program which would need a step change in improvement to stand a chance agains Office
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i hope they have solved the problem of speed and usability on the avaerge pc and not the latest quadcore monsters.
Acrobat pro is a very cranky program which would need a step change in improvement to stand a chance agains Office
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i hope they have solved the problem of speed and usability on the avaerge pc and not the latest quadcore monsters.
Acrobat pro is a very cranky program which would need a step change in improvement to stand a chance agains Office
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Adobe is stepping up to the plate. I hope they can hit a homerun!
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Adobe is stepping up to the plate. I hope they can hit a homerun!
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Adobe is stepping up to the plate. I hope they can hit a homerun!
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My big problem with networking is having to update several (okay, all of them) networking services. How many of these services can you keep up with when the information is redundant? Ultimately, I hope the market comes down to 3 or 4 different networking providers OR find a way to link accounts at Twitter, LinkedIn, Pownce, Facebook, FriendFeed, etc. Or everyone I know is going to have to migrate to one networking system (damn it!).
Sorry to go off-topic. It’s just taking a lot of my time to stay “connected” with all of these competing services.
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My big problem with networking is having to update several (okay, all of them) networking services. How many of these services can you keep up with when the information is redundant? Ultimately, I hope the market comes down to 3 or 4 different networking providers OR find a way to link accounts at Twitter, LinkedIn, Pownce, Facebook, FriendFeed, etc. Or everyone I know is going to have to migrate to one networking system (damn it!).
Sorry to go off-topic. It’s just taking a lot of my time to stay “connected” with all of these competing services.
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My big problem with networking is having to update several (okay, all of them) networking services. How many of these services can you keep up with when the information is redundant? Ultimately, I hope the market comes down to 3 or 4 different networking providers OR find a way to link accounts at Twitter, LinkedIn, Pownce, Facebook, FriendFeed, etc. Or everyone I know is going to have to migrate to one networking system (damn it!).
Sorry to go off-topic. It’s just taking a lot of my time to stay “connected” with all of these competing services.
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Not another “Office is dead” post, groan. Stop channeling Steve Gillbore. And you are living in a dream world…geesh, visit the great fly-over rest-of-the-country, sometime.
Word Processor that costs hundreds of dollars and isn’t collaborative.
The FILES are “collaborative”…including PDFs, but most things still get PRINTED, gasp, the scourge, the horror.
presentation program that can’t deal with photos from Flickr
People give Powerpoints, Project charts and other such handouts all day, that don’t link to anything. What’s Flickr’s marketshare even compared to something like Photobucket? Oh right, minuscule. This one’s really out of deep deep Valleyish left-field.
They won’t handle a sales database that doesn’t run in the Web browser.
Oh letsee, complex ‘big iron’ queries handled via markup, and you are mistaking “displayed” for “run”. And a good deal of Fortune 1000 info is already “online” per se, remote sessions via Secure ID. Guess if a small biz or indy contractor you could just Salesforce, but you are sacrificing a good deal.
Real-time web services
Maybe a few suckers, latch onto the latest social-networking crazes, but it’s usually the network-marketing scum, you’d be best to stay away from anyways. Anyone that has a sales “relationship” via Web 2.0 tools, is a fool. Web 2.0 hasn’t made decent coin for pretty much anyone, investors are starting to catch on, the fall-out will start soon enough.
And for every Blackberry and iPhone, there are hundreds to thousands of regular “boring” phones, and I see Palm and Windows Mobile phones far far more than Blackberries or iPhones. The straight PDA is a dying breed however. The ‘smartphone’ has allowed many to ditch the laptops, if anything its gone less technology, and more voice. Just the cell-provider nationwide footprints have allowed people the ability to be national.
Specific to Adobe, they really will need a serious change-over to compete with the likes of Office, quite the clunker of a program, plus it’s sorta pointless anyways, the market has long since decided that Microsoft Office is the standard, insuring the “collaborative” nature. Just like it’s sorta pointless for Microsoft to take on Flash or to do a PDF copycat, the market wins out, and once won, it’s really hard to budge, takes miracles, really.
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Not another “Office is dead” post, groan. Stop channeling Steve Gillbore. And you are living in a dream world…geesh, visit the great fly-over rest-of-the-country, sometime.
Word Processor that costs hundreds of dollars and isn’t collaborative.
The FILES are “collaborative”…including PDFs, but most things still get PRINTED, gasp, the scourge, the horror.
presentation program that can’t deal with photos from Flickr
People give Powerpoints, Project charts and other such handouts all day, that don’t link to anything. What’s Flickr’s marketshare even compared to something like Photobucket? Oh right, minuscule. This one’s really out of deep deep Valleyish left-field.
They won’t handle a sales database that doesn’t run in the Web browser.
Oh letsee, complex ‘big iron’ queries handled via markup, and you are mistaking “displayed” for “run”. And a good deal of Fortune 1000 info is already “online” per se, remote sessions via Secure ID. Guess if a small biz or indy contractor you could just Salesforce, but you are sacrificing a good deal.
Real-time web services
Maybe a few suckers, latch onto the latest social-networking crazes, but it’s usually the network-marketing scum, you’d be best to stay away from anyways. Anyone that has a sales “relationship” via Web 2.0 tools, is a fool. Web 2.0 hasn’t made decent coin for pretty much anyone, investors are starting to catch on, the fall-out will start soon enough.
And for every Blackberry and iPhone, there are hundreds to thousands of regular “boring” phones, and I see Palm and Windows Mobile phones far far more than Blackberries or iPhones. The straight PDA is a dying breed however. The ‘smartphone’ has allowed many to ditch the laptops, if anything its gone less technology, and more voice. Just the cell-provider nationwide footprints have allowed people the ability to be national.
Specific to Adobe, they really will need a serious change-over to compete with the likes of Office, quite the clunker of a program, plus it’s sorta pointless anyways, the market has long since decided that Microsoft Office is the standard, insuring the “collaborative” nature. Just like it’s sorta pointless for Microsoft to take on Flash or to do a PDF copycat, the market wins out, and once won, it’s really hard to budge, takes miracles, really.
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@Christopher
That was refreshing to read, you make some very good points.
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@Christopher
That was refreshing to read, you make some very good points.
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And yet like most sites nowadays, you don’t link to the actual adobe site, just to buddies or your own stuff, you have to actually go to techmeme to find their announcement, unless you just want to go on what all these other slackjaws opinions are on it.
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And yet like most sites nowadays, you don’t link to the actual adobe site, just to buddies or your own stuff, you have to actually go to techmeme to find their announcement, unless you just want to go on what all these other slackjaws opinions are on it.
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So, I better get them on the show, hunh?
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So, I better get them on the show, hunh?
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So, I better get them on the show, hunh?
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yeah, but do it on their system
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yeah, but do it on their system
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yeah, but do it on their system
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I have seen huge resistance to use Google Docs from all but the most tech experimental people. It will be extremely difficult to get mom off MS word.
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I have seen huge resistance to use Google Docs from all but the most tech experimental people. It will be extremely difficult to get mom off MS word.
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Christopher Coulter: I really appreciate reading your comments on Scoble’s posts.
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Christopher Coulter: I really appreciate reading your comments on Scoble’s posts.
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I loved Christopher Coulter comments. Pretty much spot on with my thinking.
It’s also been a new record for the “Killer” headline to emerge. It took ZDNet this time to win the “Adobe Office Killer” headline, there’s always one in the crowd and good ol ZDNet came through (I won the bet).
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Scott Barnes
Product Manager
Microsoft.
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I loved Christopher Coulter comments. Pretty much spot on with my thinking.
It’s also been a new record for the “Killer” headline to emerge. It took ZDNet this time to win the “Adobe Office Killer” headline, there’s always one in the crowd and good ol ZDNet came through (I won the bet).
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Scott Barnes
Product Manager
Microsoft.
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lets hope adobe brings us something good as always and cheers to all 😛
webreview.co.cc / webreview Inc,
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lets hope adobe brings us something good as always and cheers to all 😛
webreview.co.cc / webreview Inc,
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I wonder if Adobe will have a serious impact on this transition. I use Google Docs because it’s easy. I’m on Google all of the time for my e-mail, RSS feeds, etc. I only visit Adobe’s site when I have to download something. I can just click a link in my Gmail to open a file in Google Docs.
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I wonder if Adobe will have a serious impact on this transition. I use Google Docs because it’s easy. I’m on Google all of the time for my e-mail, RSS feeds, etc. I only visit Adobe’s site when I have to download something. I can just click a link in my Gmail to open a file in Google Docs.
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Chris & Friends: What kinds of companies do you work for, where most things are still printed? That’s economically and environmentally incompetent, and for the most part, useless. You still hand out PowerPoint presos? That’s what email is for. I would agree that much more collaboration is done today emailing MS Office files back and forth–at my company too–than using real collaborative tools, but as Scoble has been saying a lot lately, he’s talking to early adopters. I look forward to the day when we can leverage some of these tools in the real business world (where security is a BIG deal). But I agree with an earlier poster or two–with 50 billion options out there, no company is going to bet on a single player today, except for maybe MS. And that’s unfortunate, because I would love to see the world move into its post-MS love-hate affair. I am excited to try Adobe’s new tools though. It would be great to see them enter the office/collaboration space. Adobe is one company that might make a formidable challenger to MS, in the business world where they already have a foot in the door, unlike most of the start ups.
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Chris & Friends: What kinds of companies do you work for, where most things are still printed? That’s economically and environmentally incompetent, and for the most part, useless. You still hand out PowerPoint presos? That’s what email is for. I would agree that much more collaboration is done today emailing MS Office files back and forth–at my company too–than using real collaborative tools, but as Scoble has been saying a lot lately, he’s talking to early adopters. I look forward to the day when we can leverage some of these tools in the real business world (where security is a BIG deal). But I agree with an earlier poster or two–with 50 billion options out there, no company is going to bet on a single player today, except for maybe MS. And that’s unfortunate, because I would love to see the world move into its post-MS love-hate affair. I am excited to try Adobe’s new tools though. It would be great to see them enter the office/collaboration space. Adobe is one company that might make a formidable challenger to MS, in the business world where they already have a foot in the door, unlike most of the start ups.
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Christopher Coulter’s comment is exhibit A in “Dinosaur Thinking”. Take a good look, that’s how to make sure your career dead-ends and you become obsolete. He’ll be doing the equivalent of flipping burgers in a few years, wondering what happened.
Yeah, the old fogies (“old” regardless of age) aren’t going to get this stuff. But software that works over the ‘Net (and is still, hopefully, useful even when disconnected, though that should become increasingly uncommon), that’s how the smart people work NOW.
Non-technical people use what their technical relatives set up for them. They didn’t do a careful analysis of MS Word vs. competitors or simpler tools, they used what a nephew set up once, and will change when the nephew reformats their computer or switches them to Mac. If they’re given networked tools, at least they don’t have to make regular backups and won’t be sending 3MB photos and documents through email, just links.
It’s the dinosaurs, people who had a hard time learning “computers” the first time and are by damn not going to learn anything new, who’ll drag their heels until they’re replaced. 20 years ago, when jobs lasted more than a couple years, that would’ve been a problem, a real drag on the economy. Now, they’re just going to be replaced with current technical people.
You want the power of social networking? My last 3 jobs have come from LinkedIn, and I’m constantly getting new offers from it. The traditional job search is obsolete. You ARE your network of previous jobs, and that’s now visible.
I haven’t had time to play with Acrobat yet, but Google Apps is the common “desktop”/file store/application suite for everyone at the last couple jobs, and for several other projects I’m doing.
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Christopher Coulter’s comment is exhibit A in “Dinosaur Thinking”. Take a good look, that’s how to make sure your career dead-ends and you become obsolete. He’ll be doing the equivalent of flipping burgers in a few years, wondering what happened.
Yeah, the old fogies (“old” regardless of age) aren’t going to get this stuff. But software that works over the ‘Net (and is still, hopefully, useful even when disconnected, though that should become increasingly uncommon), that’s how the smart people work NOW.
Non-technical people use what their technical relatives set up for them. They didn’t do a careful analysis of MS Word vs. competitors or simpler tools, they used what a nephew set up once, and will change when the nephew reformats their computer or switches them to Mac. If they’re given networked tools, at least they don’t have to make regular backups and won’t be sending 3MB photos and documents through email, just links.
It’s the dinosaurs, people who had a hard time learning “computers” the first time and are by damn not going to learn anything new, who’ll drag their heels until they’re replaced. 20 years ago, when jobs lasted more than a couple years, that would’ve been a problem, a real drag on the economy. Now, they’re just going to be replaced with current technical people.
You want the power of social networking? My last 3 jobs have come from LinkedIn, and I’m constantly getting new offers from it. The traditional job search is obsolete. You ARE your network of previous jobs, and that’s now visible.
I haven’t had time to play with Acrobat yet, but Google Apps is the common “desktop”/file store/application suite for everyone at the last couple jobs, and for several other projects I’m doing.
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The login/marketing site is a good way to tie all these components back to the Acrobat brand. All of the on-demand document collaboration tools point to a broken method: track changes and email don’t provide an optimal solution for fast document collaboration.
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The login/marketing site is a good way to tie all these components back to the Acrobat brand. All of the on-demand document collaboration tools point to a broken method: track changes and email don’t provide an optimal solution for fast document collaboration.
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hi, or ask me how I came up here.
I tried by “disqus” on google not know why you came.
Oh I saw something that interested me, I’m curious too, do a blog and I am moving and seeing what that has to blogger news, tools, clear laem to read the text also, however, I wanted to know how you do it pra friend add the feed to the blog?
Sorry, I’m Brazilian and an online translator to translate Portuguese to English.
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hi, or ask me how I came up here.
I tried by “disqus” on google not know why you came.
Oh I saw something that interested me, I’m curious too, do a blog and I am moving and seeing what that has to blogger news, tools, clear laem to read the text also, however, I wanted to know how you do it pra friend add the feed to the blog?
Sorry, I’m Brazilian and an online translator to translate Portuguese to English.
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I thought it was cool the way it was in flash, pretty easy to use, and it made a kind of room where you could share what’s on your desktop and in theory, edit pictures/documents with other people. But, then I got stuck, and all my desktop stuff made this huge hall of mirrors. I then kept somehow reaching for the arrow keys and looking for an avatar to move around because it was looking spatial.
I still think Second Life is a better way to do this sort of thing although of course documents don’t work as well in there.
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I thought it was cool the way it was in flash, pretty easy to use, and it made a kind of room where you could share what’s on your desktop and in theory, edit pictures/documents with other people. But, then I got stuck, and all my desktop stuff made this huge hall of mirrors. I then kept somehow reaching for the arrow keys and looking for an avatar to move around because it was looking spatial.
I still think Second Life is a better way to do this sort of thing although of course documents don’t work as well in there.
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Counterpoint…
Will a Doctorate Chemist become “obsolete” just because he’s not an IT expert? Will the Heart Surgeon, too busy to install his own software, become this dinosaur? Will the Structural Engineer return to the Mesozoic just because he does his blueprints on paper, offline at that? Will a Metallurgist, find himself looking for a new job, just because he’s not a Network Engineer? Will a Dentist, return to the Stone Age, because he keeps his files on paper, and does his advertising/networking by local word-of-mouth? Will a CEO, deftly commanding a company of 150,000, be canned, just because he’s not “technical” enough? Will the Kindergarten teacher find her (or himself) on the unemployment line, because they aren’t up on all the latest software? No, it’s all a commodity, farmed out, IT becomes mere support, hardly core, the technical is easily delegated away.
Software that meets the needs of said person/company is all that matters, being “online” is just a distribution method, not a revolution. It’s been nearly 20 years of ‘network is the computer’ hype, hope springs eternal, but read Bob Seidensticker’s book, for a reality check.
Non-technical people use what their COMPANIES set up for them, and what everyone else around them is using and what comes pre-installed from the OEMs, the usual “technical dweeb” would rather set-up WordPerfect, OpenOffice or something similar, never “evil” Microsoft.
Face to face, person to person, phone to phone, friend to friend, alumni to alumni, always beats Linked-In networking spam, everyone on that site is out for something. Sure the job search process has evolved, gone half electronic, but rather than replace, a mere enhancement, resumes still work in most fields.
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Counterpoint…
Will a Doctorate Chemist become “obsolete” just because he’s not an IT expert? Will the Heart Surgeon, too busy to install his own software, become this dinosaur? Will the Structural Engineer return to the Mesozoic just because he does his blueprints on paper, offline at that? Will a Metallurgist, find himself looking for a new job, just because he’s not a Network Engineer? Will a Dentist, return to the Stone Age, because he keeps his files on paper, and does his advertising/networking by local word-of-mouth? Will a CEO, deftly commanding a company of 150,000, be canned, just because he’s not “technical” enough? Will the Kindergarten teacher find her (or himself) on the unemployment line, because they aren’t up on all the latest software? No, it’s all a commodity, farmed out, IT becomes mere support, hardly core, the technical is easily delegated away.
Software that meets the needs of said person/company is all that matters, being “online” is just a distribution method, not a revolution. It’s been nearly 20 years of ‘network is the computer’ hype, hope springs eternal, but read Bob Seidensticker’s book, for a reality check.
Non-technical people use what their COMPANIES set up for them, and what everyone else around them is using and what comes pre-installed from the OEMs, the usual “technical dweeb” would rather set-up WordPerfect, OpenOffice or something similar, never “evil” Microsoft.
Face to face, person to person, phone to phone, friend to friend, alumni to alumni, always beats Linked-In networking spam, everyone on that site is out for something. Sure the job search process has evolved, gone half electronic, but rather than replace, a mere enhancement, resumes still work in most fields.
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hmmmm.. Most of the annoying cell phone users I see on airplanes crack open their phone to tell mom/dad/spouse they’ve landed. Which makes me wonder how these people managed to travel before they had cell phones. Nothing is THAT important that you can’t wait until you get off the plane. You type of people are annoying. What makes them think we want to hear their calls?
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hmmmm.. Most of the annoying cell phone users I see on airplanes crack open their phone to tell mom/dad/spouse they’ve landed. Which makes me wonder how these people managed to travel before they had cell phones. Nothing is THAT important that you can’t wait until you get off the plane. You type of people are annoying. What makes them think we want to hear their calls?
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coworking? linkedin?
just created a small coworking site in northern italy, we got requests almost everyweek.
we also created a linkedin group of people interested, and the group is making a voluntary connection with people all over the world.
the world of work, for what I am concerned IS changing.
but only to the extent you want to change it (I’m also thinking of my advertising clients who give me job setting milestones on socialtext, and eventually showing – on occasions – more creativity than we do while we do the reviewing part of the job, totally changing the rules.
it’s an option today, it’ll be the rule tomorrow.
ciao
massimo
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coworking? linkedin?
just created a small coworking site in northern italy, we got requests almost everyweek.
we also created a linkedin group of people interested, and the group is making a voluntary connection with people all over the world.
the world of work, for what I am concerned IS changing.
but only to the extent you want to change it (I’m also thinking of my advertising clients who give me job setting milestones on socialtext, and eventually showing – on occasions – more creativity than we do while we do the reviewing part of the job, totally changing the rules.
it’s an option today, it’ll be the rule tomorrow.
ciao
massimo
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The flash format is slow and difficult to export.
Pushing flash tech out of loyalty is no good when it becomes irritating to use
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The flash format is slow and difficult to export.
Pushing flash tech out of loyalty is no good when it becomes irritating to use
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How long have these web 2.0 apps tried to go mainstream? And what has been their success rate?
What is their revenue model for all these on-line apps. More to the point, what is the partner and ISV model around these apps. Someone name me one major SI that is offering services to migrate off of Office to Google Apps or Zoho? Where’s the money in it.
I’m old enough to remember being told that CB radios would revolutionize communication. And that big satellite dishes installed in my back yard would free me from the reliance on cable. Why did they die. No money in it. There is a huge business built around adding value to IBM/Lotus and MS platforms. Until Google gets there no F500 company will bet their data on it
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How long have these web 2.0 apps tried to go mainstream? And what has been their success rate?
What is their revenue model for all these on-line apps. More to the point, what is the partner and ISV model around these apps. Someone name me one major SI that is offering services to migrate off of Office to Google Apps or Zoho? Where’s the money in it.
I’m old enough to remember being told that CB radios would revolutionize communication. And that big satellite dishes installed in my back yard would free me from the reliance on cable. Why did they die. No money in it. There is a huge business built around adding value to IBM/Lotus and MS platforms. Until Google gets there no F500 company will bet their data on it
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Scoble – I sell software to large enterprises and NO – the way we work is NOT changing. Not a single enterprise I speak to wants to put up their data on an external web site; not a single customer wants to provide complete access to their employees to access corporate data without some form of 2 factor auth – forget public web sites, they are very uncomfortable exposing their own services through the extranet.
Coworking? What are you talking about? Which enterprise is using coworking? How many use it? What were their teething problems? How did they overcome those?
Why dont you do interviews with REAL Enterprises who USE some of these things instead of giving us anecdotal snippets which cannot be verified anyway?
Powerpoint cant use FLICKR? WTF? Try this – Save the image from FLICKR on your desktop and then include it in your presentation by using the INSERT->PICTURE menu option.
Ever heard of Picture Libraries in sharepoint? It allows you to store and sync your images in a corporate sharepoint website and provide access from within any office tool. Takes care of your “web 2.0” scenario and allows enterprises to manage copyrighted image content.
Before passing judgement, look around – there is a lot going on that you may not understand.
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Scoble – I sell software to large enterprises and NO – the way we work is NOT changing. Not a single enterprise I speak to wants to put up their data on an external web site; not a single customer wants to provide complete access to their employees to access corporate data without some form of 2 factor auth – forget public web sites, they are very uncomfortable exposing their own services through the extranet.
Coworking? What are you talking about? Which enterprise is using coworking? How many use it? What were their teething problems? How did they overcome those?
Why dont you do interviews with REAL Enterprises who USE some of these things instead of giving us anecdotal snippets which cannot be verified anyway?
Powerpoint cant use FLICKR? WTF? Try this – Save the image from FLICKR on your desktop and then include it in your presentation by using the INSERT->PICTURE menu option.
Ever heard of Picture Libraries in sharepoint? It allows you to store and sync your images in a corporate sharepoint website and provide access from within any office tool. Takes care of your “web 2.0” scenario and allows enterprises to manage copyrighted image content.
Before passing judgement, look around – there is a lot going on that you may not understand.
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“there is a lot going on that you may not understand.”
Boy! is that the understatement of the year so far.
What do you mean “may”?
Vivek, you are spot on. The people that actually PAY money for solutions are not interested in any Web 2.0 offering.
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Scoble,
Thanks for the post. The new suite is pretty sweet. I used the meeting function today and loved it. Techmeme’s write up hinted at Adobe trying to out do Google Docs, etc.
I have a problem and maybe you or someone else here can help. Im an analyst for a huge hospital system in Cleveland Ohio and pull data from an enormous database and use a great visual analysis tool: Tableau(www.tableausoftware.com), and I have data sets that have way more than 65,000 lines, which is all that Excel 2003 and Google Docs allow. Do you or anyone know of some other outlet I can use so I dont have to use Access(i hate access).
By the way, my IT dept wont let us get Excel 2007….bummer.
Thanks
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“there is a lot going on that you may not understand.”
Boy! is that the understatement of the year so far.
What do you mean “may”?
Vivek, you are spot on. The people that actually PAY money for solutions are not interested in any Web 2.0 offering.
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Scoble,
Thanks for the post. The new suite is pretty sweet. I used the meeting function today and loved it. Techmeme’s write up hinted at Adobe trying to out do Google Docs, etc.
I have a problem and maybe you or someone else here can help. Im an analyst for a huge hospital system in Cleveland Ohio and pull data from an enormous database and use a great visual analysis tool: Tableau(www.tableausoftware.com), and I have data sets that have way more than 65,000 lines, which is all that Excel 2003 and Google Docs allow. Do you or anyone know of some other outlet I can use so I dont have to use Access(i hate access).
By the way, my IT dept wont let us get Excel 2007….bummer.
Thanks
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You quote Eric Rice about a productivity suite, that’s pretty damn ironic.
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You quote Eric Rice about a productivity suite, that’s pretty damn ironic.
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and NO – the way we work is NOT changing.
Given the extreme myopic-dreamy view most tech bloggers have, it can seem like such, well, minus any hard evidence or actual case studies notwithstanding. And anecdotal feel-good snippets is the fuel that beach-ball media techies run on, as by the time they are asked to pony up evidence, the story is already yesterday’s news, onto the next new new thing.
Before passing judgement, look around – there is a lot going on that you may not understand.
Hopeless case, I’ve given up. 😉 But he’s still a great nice guy in person, being that I disagree with 110% of everything he says. But it’s half theater too, myself included.
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and NO – the way we work is NOT changing.
Given the extreme myopic-dreamy view most tech bloggers have, it can seem like such, well, minus any hard evidence or actual case studies notwithstanding. And anecdotal feel-good snippets is the fuel that beach-ball media techies run on, as by the time they are asked to pony up evidence, the story is already yesterday’s news, onto the next new new thing.
Before passing judgement, look around – there is a lot going on that you may not understand.
Hopeless case, I’ve given up. 😉 But he’s still a great nice guy in person, being that I disagree with 110% of everything he says. But it’s half theater too, myself included.
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It is great to see all of this technology come out as it usually makes the work environment more efficient. Kudos to Adobe.
I just wonder how good the package will look in the end. Cause it better be pretty much amazing to have an inkling of a chance to compete with Office. I mean come on we are talking about Microsoft here.
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It is great to see all of this technology come out as it usually makes the work environment more efficient. Kudos to Adobe.
I just wonder how good the package will look in the end. Cause it better be pretty much amazing to have an inkling of a chance to compete with Office. I mean come on we are talking about Microsoft here.
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Our organization tried similar tools to this Adobe suite, but decided against them. It was just too hard to make the jump from what we were used to. However, we are adopting blogs and wikis and seeing a big productivity improvement from them.
I think that most people overestimate their own importance and bloggers / Web 2.0 nuts are no different. I knew a doctor once who would tell me how terribly important doctors were. I told him I thought the migrant workers working in the Central Valley were more useful because I wanted a salad more often than a check up.
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Our organization tried similar tools to this Adobe suite, but decided against them. It was just too hard to make the jump from what we were used to. However, we are adopting blogs and wikis and seeing a big productivity improvement from them.
I think that most people overestimate their own importance and bloggers / Web 2.0 nuts are no different. I knew a doctor once who would tell me how terribly important doctors were. I told him I thought the migrant workers working in the Central Valley were more useful because I wanted a salad more often than a check up.
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A new office? I am still learning the old 2007, we all need a down time from so many releases, we are releasing so fast that everything breaks with the usage, see http://twitter.com, add a few people and goes down faster than your think.
Its more difficult to go down that try to bring it up, while people is hitting the website, caching and queuing did not work for them, as everybody blaims rails, I’ll say, the design is not as good, and I am guessing for their post about the database, that the DBA should start also blogging and asking for help. Great idea many times copied.
I also tried to copy twitter providing location. http://geotwitter.net, however I would never have as many users are twitter had the first month.
Al
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A new office? I am still learning the old 2007, we all need a down time from so many releases, we are releasing so fast that everything breaks with the usage, see http://twitter.com, add a few people and goes down faster than your think.
Its more difficult to go down that try to bring it up, while people is hitting the website, caching and queuing did not work for them, as everybody blaims rails, I’ll say, the design is not as good, and I am guessing for their post about the database, that the DBA should start also blogging and asking for help. Great idea many times copied.
I also tried to copy twitter providing location. http://geotwitter.net, however I would never have as many users are twitter had the first month.
Al
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Nice post, mate! Keep it going…
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Nice post, mate! Keep it going…
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I was a cell phone tech back when cell phones first started hitting the market. Its amazing how much technology has changed in the last 20 years.
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I was a cell phone tech back when cell phones first started hitting the market. Its amazing how much technology has changed in the last 20 years.
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I was a cell phone tech back when cell phones first started hitting the market. Its amazing how much technology has changed in the last 20 years.
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I also tried to copy twitter providing location
thanks
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I also tried to copy twitter providing location
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Your blog is timely reinforcement about the purpose of blogs and what I aspire to as well. Really good one!regardscharcoal grill
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