Scoble’s wrong. At least that’s what a good number of commenters say on my post yesterday.
On Sunday night I was being interviewed by Guy Kawasaki at the Stanford Publishing Course. Lots of famous publishers in the audience, including Scott Karp, who captured a few minutes with his video camera, and I told them this is why I like online media: it’s two way.
In old media if you see an idiot on TV you can’t effectively yell back. Today you can and I think that’s freaking awesome.
How do I know I really was wrong? Christopher Coulter agreed with me in those comments. He never agrees with me so I MUST have been wrong! 🙂
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Yes sorry…this is another “Scoble was wrong about Androïd” post
The question is the iPhone really a phone ? Or more a social sign of power ? Or an geek drug ?
Personnaly I don’t want to be a brand slave…I don’t want to deal with a company that say I’m above the crowd… I don’t want to think different… I don’t want to be Picasso or Einstein… I don’t want to be on a closed platform…I don’t want to pay high prices. I don’t want to be a fashion victim… I don’t want to use crack software.
Every time there was a discussion about Apple, objective argument rapidly gone for entering in the subjective world. There is such a big distorsion between reality and perception. Some people are speaking of iPhone as the 7th wonder in the world… hum go back on earth…
I just simply want SIMPLE Internet and phone mobile access. I just want reasonable fees. I just want a phone who can really act also as a small computer. I just want interoperability. I just want to do what I want with my smartphone… I just want a business phone.
Apple will never bring that…iPhone no way…Give Androïd some times
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Yes sorry…this is another “Scoble was wrong about Androïd” post
The question is the iPhone really a phone ? Or more a social sign of power ? Or an geek drug ?
Personnaly I don’t want to be a brand slave…I don’t want to deal with a company that say I’m above the crowd… I don’t want to think different… I don’t want to be Picasso or Einstein… I don’t want to be on a closed platform…I don’t want to pay high prices. I don’t want to be a fashion victim… I don’t want to use crack software.
Every time there was a discussion about Apple, objective argument rapidly gone for entering in the subjective world. There is such a big distorsion between reality and perception. Some people are speaking of iPhone as the 7th wonder in the world… hum go back on earth…
I just simply want SIMPLE Internet and phone mobile access. I just want reasonable fees. I just want a phone who can really act also as a small computer. I just want interoperability. I just want to do what I want with my smartphone… I just want a business phone.
Apple will never bring that…iPhone no way…Give Androïd some times
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Open Source everything, pull the license if Google isn’t front and center with a big cut (their definition of ‘open’), release a Google-Java VM Rubin-rehash SDK alliance of sorts. Bribe developers, have SiRF, Synaptics, PacketVideo, HTC, TAT, Nvidia and others perform modern-day miracles, cram all into one big mess, and hope the market just magically (poof) happens and that the telecoms welcome it all with open arms. They’d be better off just buying up all the telecomm’s and forcing it down their throat. Like Microsoft, Google will nose-dive (or spend billions getting there) in anything consumer.
When you agree with me, you are right, simple as that.
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Open Source everything, pull the license if Google isn’t front and center with a big cut (their definition of ‘open’), release a Google-Java VM Rubin-rehash SDK alliance of sorts. Bribe developers, have SiRF, Synaptics, PacketVideo, HTC, TAT, Nvidia and others perform modern-day miracles, cram all into one big mess, and hope the market just magically (poof) happens and that the telecoms welcome it all with open arms. They’d be better off just buying up all the telecomm’s and forcing it down their throat. Like Microsoft, Google will nose-dive (or spend billions getting there) in anything consumer.
When you agree with me, you are right, simple as that.
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You were wrong. You said that Steve Jobs showed the iPhone to everyone in person (or at least to developers in person). Yeah, back in January in a 2 foot cube of solid bulletproof glass. Android is software – not hardware. There’s nothing physical to show anyone. However, the code (which Apple has yet to release, and never will – just the SDK sometime next year) for Android is freely downloadable right now – and was the very day the video was released.
Now, I agree, the 20 minute video (or however long it was) on YouTube was not as flashy, fun, or exciting as The JOBS on stage at MacWorld holding up the WonderFone for all to see (with swinted eyes from the back row), with his usual “One more thing…” showmanship. However, the idea that every “gPhone” will be a jailbroken one – that “legitmate businesses” will be able to write apps for it – that any phone can run it – that it will be on multiple providers – that no liscencing cost to the phone companies mean (or at least should mean) lower costs for smartphones to consumers…. ALl that is pretty durn exciting! There’s nothing “iPhony” about this. Is the GUI similiar? Maybe. THere was some coverflowishness going on, sure. But it’s a touchscreen smartphone. How different to you expect them to be? Apple has always been the trendsetter in GUI – ever since the 1984 Mac. Someone is copying Apple! Stop the presses!
Good artists immitate – great artists steal.
Similiar GUI does not an iPhony make. Freedom – Android, yes, iPhone, no. Have to be a pirate to get cool apps – Android, no, iPhone, yes. Have to be locked into the next 5 years with at&t – iPhone, yes, Android, no. Have to jailbreak your phone to make it usable – iPhone, yes, ANdroid, no. Limited to one piece of hardware – iPhone, yes, ANdroid, no. Works in Vermont – Android, yes, iPhone, no.
Android has been in the hands of developers since last Monday, and a select few (including the head of Google – go figure) for 6 months. Why didn’t Google release it soon? Why hasn’t Apple released anything yet? That’s a better question. The first “gPhones” – better Android Phones – won’t be out until next year. Yet I, someone who has never looked at source code for a phone before, can download the SDK right now. I really don’t get how your argument is that Google didn’t show it to the developers soon enough. Makes no sense to me.
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You were wrong. You said that Steve Jobs showed the iPhone to everyone in person (or at least to developers in person). Yeah, back in January in a 2 foot cube of solid bulletproof glass. Android is software – not hardware. There’s nothing physical to show anyone. However, the code (which Apple has yet to release, and never will – just the SDK sometime next year) for Android is freely downloadable right now – and was the very day the video was released.
Now, I agree, the 20 minute video (or however long it was) on YouTube was not as flashy, fun, or exciting as The JOBS on stage at MacWorld holding up the WonderFone for all to see (with swinted eyes from the back row), with his usual “One more thing…” showmanship. However, the idea that every “gPhone” will be a jailbroken one – that “legitmate businesses” will be able to write apps for it – that any phone can run it – that it will be on multiple providers – that no liscencing cost to the phone companies mean (or at least should mean) lower costs for smartphones to consumers…. ALl that is pretty durn exciting! There’s nothing “iPhony” about this. Is the GUI similiar? Maybe. THere was some coverflowishness going on, sure. But it’s a touchscreen smartphone. How different to you expect them to be? Apple has always been the trendsetter in GUI – ever since the 1984 Mac. Someone is copying Apple! Stop the presses!
Good artists immitate – great artists steal.
Similiar GUI does not an iPhony make. Freedom – Android, yes, iPhone, no. Have to be a pirate to get cool apps – Android, no, iPhone, yes. Have to be locked into the next 5 years with at&t – iPhone, yes, Android, no. Have to jailbreak your phone to make it usable – iPhone, yes, ANdroid, no. Limited to one piece of hardware – iPhone, yes, ANdroid, no. Works in Vermont – Android, yes, iPhone, no.
Android has been in the hands of developers since last Monday, and a select few (including the head of Google – go figure) for 6 months. Why didn’t Google release it soon? Why hasn’t Apple released anything yet? That’s a better question. The first “gPhones” – better Android Phones – won’t be out until next year. Yet I, someone who has never looked at source code for a phone before, can download the SDK right now. I really don’t get how your argument is that Google didn’t show it to the developers soon enough. Makes no sense to me.
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Who knows if you are right or wrong, but I was compelled to comment to the person who called you an imbecile or an idiot (or whatever) that he could at least employ civilized discourse. I accept that fact that I am old school for thinking that 🙂
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Who knows if you are right or wrong, but I was compelled to comment to the person who called you an imbecile or an idiot (or whatever) that he could at least employ civilized discourse. I accept that fact that I am old school for thinking that 🙂
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I think you were both right 🙂
I think Microsoft likewise kept hoping that an “alliance” would come together around Windows Media technologies that would present a challenge to the iPod. At the end of the day, they said screw it and decided to make the Zune, where they could dictate the hardware design as well as the software and the store.
Because they exhibit an Apple-like dictatorial control over the whole Zune experience, Microsoft has a much better product in Zune than they did with dozens of hardware players using different pieces of software to manage music and different music stores.
Sometimes the benevolent dictator is what you need. Or as Christopher put it, Google should buy the telecoms and cram it down their throats 🙂
The upside is that Google has covered their collective butts here: if Android fails to catch on, if it turns out the handsets are all ugly bricks, or cost $800, or if it turns out that spinning a 3D globe in OpenGL kills your battery, or if someone writes a worm that infects every Android handset on the planet, Google can always throw up their arms and say, “Hey! We just wrote the API. We’re not responsible for other people’s bad programming.” 🙂
At the end of the day, the Googlephone is still not an *iPod*. It will no doubt play music like every other phone, but it will not connect to my iTunes library and play my existing purchased music and TV shows. And the only way Google or some open source developer is going to get a Fairplay DRM license is to pry it from Steve Jobs’ cold, dead fingers.
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I think you were both right 🙂
I think Microsoft likewise kept hoping that an “alliance” would come together around Windows Media technologies that would present a challenge to the iPod. At the end of the day, they said screw it and decided to make the Zune, where they could dictate the hardware design as well as the software and the store.
Because they exhibit an Apple-like dictatorial control over the whole Zune experience, Microsoft has a much better product in Zune than they did with dozens of hardware players using different pieces of software to manage music and different music stores.
Sometimes the benevolent dictator is what you need. Or as Christopher put it, Google should buy the telecoms and cram it down their throats 🙂
The upside is that Google has covered their collective butts here: if Android fails to catch on, if it turns out the handsets are all ugly bricks, or cost $800, or if it turns out that spinning a 3D globe in OpenGL kills your battery, or if someone writes a worm that infects every Android handset on the planet, Google can always throw up their arms and say, “Hey! We just wrote the API. We’re not responsible for other people’s bad programming.” 🙂
At the end of the day, the Googlephone is still not an *iPod*. It will no doubt play music like every other phone, but it will not connect to my iTunes library and play my existing purchased music and TV shows. And the only way Google or some open source developer is going to get a Fairplay DRM license is to pry it from Steve Jobs’ cold, dead fingers.
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I think *many* people are missing the point about Android – clearly, it’s something that isn’t easy to understand. I’ve tried to put some perspective on the Android SDK on my blog:
http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/14/putting-the-android-sdk-in-perspective/
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I think *many* people are missing the point about Android – clearly, it’s something that isn’t easy to understand. I’ve tried to put some perspective on the Android SDK on my blog:
http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/14/putting-the-android-sdk-in-perspective/
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“Rhuggle is a bunch of boy scouts with no den-master! They are just
a bunch of spoiled rich kids on a perpetual holiday, no order or
discipline. They only exist in that I allow it, I find them amusing, it’s
like watching a house on fire or some other tragedy, you know it’s
repulsive but you just can’t look away!”
The reporters were taking in my words like Saki, they just couldn’t
get enough! So I decided to throw them one more bone!
“I have to go now, but since I’m on Rhuggle, let me say this about
this ‘Android” thing they announced: It is just like the rest of Google
..ahem, I mean Rhuggle, IT ONLY EXIST ON PAPER! Don’t fall for this
vaporware, rumors, fake-half-baked hype that they peddle!”
http://FAKESTEVEBALLMER@BLOGSPOT.COM
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“Rhuggle is a bunch of boy scouts with no den-master! They are just
a bunch of spoiled rich kids on a perpetual holiday, no order or
discipline. They only exist in that I allow it, I find them amusing, it’s
like watching a house on fire or some other tragedy, you know it’s
repulsive but you just can’t look away!”
The reporters were taking in my words like Saki, they just couldn’t
get enough! So I decided to throw them one more bone!
“I have to go now, but since I’m on Rhuggle, let me say this about
this ‘Android” thing they announced: It is just like the rest of Google
..ahem, I mean Rhuggle, IT ONLY EXIST ON PAPER! Don’t fall for this
vaporware, rumors, fake-half-baked hype that they peddle!”
http://FAKESTEVEBALLMER@BLOGSPOT.COM
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Ok – first Microsoft (from 1984 on) copies Apple. Now the Fake Microsoft is copying the Fake Apple?
I’ve just fallen into the twilight zone.
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Ok – first Microsoft (from 1984 on) copies Apple. Now the Fake Microsoft is copying the Fake Apple?
I’ve just fallen into the twilight zone.
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Old and dead tread, and aside from the consumer market implications, the real ‘war’, isn’t Google vs. Apple, Microsoft or telecoms, it’s Google vs. Sun, per JavaFX Mobile, which, if it runs well, will be light years ahead, as you aren’t locked into the Android-only mode.
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Old and dead tread, and aside from the consumer market implications, the real ‘war’, isn’t Google vs. Apple, Microsoft or telecoms, it’s Google vs. Sun, per JavaFX Mobile, which, if it runs well, will be light years ahead, as you aren’t locked into the Android-only mode.
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