Free .NET Developer Tour

The MSDN events team tells me they are taking to the road again in USA showing how to use the .NET Framework 2.0 and ASP.NET. Hmmm, those are the technologies that let us build On10.net with three team members in less than five weeks. Also the same tech that runs MySpace, one of the most traffic'ed sites on the Internet. Hey, it's free.

22 thoughts on “Free .NET Developer Tour

  1. Scoble – what are you saying is free about .NET? For the users it’s free, yes. Ask professional developers how free it is and you’ll likely to find a different response.

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  2. Scoble – what are you saying is free about .NET? For the users it’s free, yes. Ask professional developers how free it is and you’ll likely to find a different response.

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  3. TDavid,

    > Scoble – what are you saying is free about .NET?
    > For the users it’s free, yes. Ask professional
    > developers how free it is and you’ll likely to find
    > a different response.

    I *think* Scoble may have been referring to the fact that our events are free. 🙂

    The .NET redistributable is a free download however. And as Maryam was pointing, so is the IDE, Visual Studio Express.

    Ai

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  4. TDavid,

    > Scoble – what are you saying is free about .NET?
    > For the users it’s free, yes. Ask professional
    > developers how free it is and you’ll likely to find
    > a different response.

    I *think* Scoble may have been referring to the fact that our events are free. 🙂

    The .NET redistributable is a free download however. And as Maryam was pointing, so is the IDE, Visual Studio Express.

    Ai

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  5. Hello Ai / Scoble – I intentionally used the word ‘professional’ in my first post because the Express version of VS are geared toward “hobbyistys and enthusiasts” (problem keywords: custom deployment) according to Microsoft themselves, so I’m just using your own verbiage.

    It’s a nice gesture for Microsoft to do these free training courses so don’t take this as looking a gift horse in the mouth. Just saying I’ve been to several local training sessions but have yet to attend even one that ever used Visual Studio *Express* for demos. It’s always been the VS Pro versions.

    If they intend to use primarily Express for these training sesions please feel free to correct me 🙂

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  6. Hello Ai / Scoble – I intentionally used the word ‘professional’ in my first post because the Express version of VS are geared toward “hobbyistys and enthusiasts” (problem keywords: custom deployment) according to Microsoft themselves, so I’m just using your own verbiage.

    It’s a nice gesture for Microsoft to do these free training courses so don’t take this as looking a gift horse in the mouth. Just saying I’ve been to several local training sessions but have yet to attend even one that ever used Visual Studio *Express* for demos. It’s always been the VS Pro versions.

    If they intend to use primarily Express for these training sesions please feel free to correct me 🙂

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  7. TDavid,

    The standard, pro, and team suite editions of VS have more features than the express edition. No doubt.

    We try and use Express as much as we can in our demos. In some cases (like with the Enterprise Library session we’re doing in these sessions), use of VS Standard as a minimum is required. Which is a fair ask – I mean, the use of the enterprise library is for building applications that can scale and perform. And we can’t have multiple editions of VS installed, so we install the ‘highest common factor’ to do all our demos. But for the other 2 sessions we’ll be doing (Language Enhancements in C# & VB.NET and ASP.NET 2.0 WebParts), VS express will suffice.

    The probable reason why you’ve seen trainers use Pro, is because that is what they have installed on their system. However, if you look at this chart, you’ll notice that there’s quite a butt-load you can do with express.

    This is good feedback, that I’ll share with my evangelist buddies, but rest assured, you can always ask the trainer/presenter if what they’re demo-ing can be accomplished with Express. Fair enough?

    Thanks,

    Ai

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  8. TDavid,

    The standard, pro, and team suite editions of VS have more features than the express edition. No doubt.

    We try and use Express as much as we can in our demos. In some cases (like with the Enterprise Library session we’re doing in these sessions), use of VS Standard as a minimum is required. Which is a fair ask – I mean, the use of the enterprise library is for building applications that can scale and perform. And we can’t have multiple editions of VS installed, so we install the ‘highest common factor’ to do all our demos. But for the other 2 sessions we’ll be doing (Language Enhancements in C# & VB.NET and ASP.NET 2.0 WebParts), VS express will suffice.

    The probable reason why you’ve seen trainers use Pro, is because that is what they have installed on their system. However, if you look at this chart, you’ll notice that there’s quite a butt-load you can do with express.

    This is good feedback, that I’ll share with my evangelist buddies, but rest assured, you can always ask the trainer/presenter if what they’re demo-ing can be accomplished with Express. Fair enough?

    Thanks,

    Ai

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