For the record, I have never, and will never, edit my own Wikipedia entry (Rogers Cadenhead talks about how Wikipedia’s founder Jimmy Wales edits his) . If you all think I’m a jerk I’ll leave that up there as part of the public record.
My Wikipedia policy
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What’s wrong with editin your own entry ?
Wikipedia entry is self sustaining via various audit methods .. Correct ??
Notning wrong in correcting one’s own wiki- as long its the truth be written !!
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What’s wrong with editin your own entry ?
Wikipedia entry is self sustaining via various audit methods .. Correct ??
Notning wrong in correcting one’s own wiki- as long its the truth be written !!
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/pd: if it’s inaccurate I can always plea on my blog for someone to correct it and do that transparently and in the glaze of the public eye.
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/pd: if it’s inaccurate I can always plea on my blog for someone to correct it and do that transparently and in the glaze of the public eye.
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Ok I hear you. Your correct.
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Ok I hear you. Your correct.
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Hopefully you heard about Adam Curry?, nice move btw!
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Hopefully you heard about Adam Curry?, nice move btw!
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Yeah, I heard about that.
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Yeah, I heard about that.
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… So do you really subscribe to 740 feeds?
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… So do you really subscribe to 740 feeds?
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Sam, yes. Click on my “Blogroll” link to the right (use the NewsGator one, it’s the most up to date) to see the feeds I read.
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Sam, yes. Click on my “Blogroll” link to the right (use the NewsGator one, it’s the most up to date) to see the feeds I read.
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Heh, someone put up my old URL just a few minutes ago. I wish I could figure out how to send email to folks who make changes and tell them when they make mistakes.
Can anyone change it back to http://scobleizer.wordpress.com ?
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Heh, someone put up my old URL just a few minutes ago. I wish I could figure out how to send email to folks who make changes and tell them when they make mistakes.
Can anyone change it back to http://scobleizer.wordpress.com ?
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Wikipedia already has a policy on autobiographies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AUTO
And as someone else who is also an active wikipedian with a biography written about me, I’m very careful to maintain hands-off with it. I added the picture, and corrected an ISBN once, but the rest has all been edited by others. I think it’s better that way.
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Wikipedia already has a policy on autobiographies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AUTO
And as someone else who is also an active wikipedian with a biography written about me, I’m very careful to maintain hands-off with it. I added the picture, and corrected an ISBN once, but the rest has all been edited by others. I think it’s better that way.
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wikipedia discourages people from making articles about themselves, because often people overestimate their importance, once an article about you exists though, I don’t see any reason not to correct things, especially factual errors.
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wikipedia discourages people from making articles about themselves, because often people overestimate their importance, once an article about you exists though, I don’t see any reason not to correct things, especially factual errors.
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Would you consider posting your view on the “Talk/Discussion” page and leaving others to change the main article tkaing your thoughts and “Oi!” into consideration?
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Would you consider posting your view on the “Talk/Discussion” page and leaving others to change the main article tkaing your thoughts and “Oi!” into consideration?
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BTW Curry edited the page on Podcasting, not his own page, but that was still a mistake because a) he’s heavily involved in the topic and b) it was interpreted as trying to make himself look more important. He soon found out that he did not have the whole story, e.g. that he wasn’t the only one trying to automate the transfer of enclosures to the iPod at that time (mid 2004). He was already offending people by commercializing Podcasting through his company, so I’m not surprised people went off the rails, but I think he learned his lesson..!
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BTW Curry edited the page on Podcasting, not his own page, but that was still a mistake because a) he’s heavily involved in the topic and b) it was interpreted as trying to make himself look more important. He soon found out that he did not have the whole story, e.g. that he wasn’t the only one trying to automate the transfer of enclosures to the iPod at that time (mid 2004). He was already offending people by commercializing Podcasting through his company, so I’m not surprised people went off the rails, but I think he learned his lesson..!
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Well it depends if you want Wikipedia to be *complete* or only show what’s *popular*…
Many subjects are niches; you can’t necessarily wait for someone else to add something if it’s incorrect or missing…then you can leave and let people edit at will.
BTW I was the one who raised the NPOV dispute on the podcasting entry earlier this year, (not sure if that NPOV was after those famous edits or not, it was around that time I think – May?). I had no idea who’d edited it, or why, it just didn’t tally from what I’d read and seen only months earlier…this demonstrates the danger of doing history while you are in it!
There’s probably a good rule not to dispute an entry if it’s your own baby or about you, tho.
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Well it depends if you want Wikipedia to be *complete* or only show what’s *popular*…
Many subjects are niches; you can’t necessarily wait for someone else to add something if it’s incorrect or missing…then you can leave and let people edit at will.
BTW I was the one who raised the NPOV dispute on the podcasting entry earlier this year, (not sure if that NPOV was after those famous edits or not, it was around that time I think – May?). I had no idea who’d edited it, or why, it just didn’t tally from what I’d read and seen only months earlier…this demonstrates the danger of doing history while you are in it!
There’s probably a good rule not to dispute an entry if it’s your own baby or about you, tho.
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Some complainer commercialized a ping server and a domain name. Commercializing and promoting podcasts, podcasting software, and a podcasting directory is a natural business in entertainment.
The “glaze of the public eye.” Well, the public’s eyes may be glazed over when listening to this grandstanding, but maybe they’re gazing when being critical.
Interesting how the boo birds come out against Berkman Fellow Wales and Wikipedia at about the time a “competitor” is being announced. Coincidence or treachery in the blogosphere?
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Some complainer commercialized a ping server and a domain name. Commercializing and promoting podcasts, podcasting software, and a podcasting directory is a natural business in entertainment.
The “glaze of the public eye.” Well, the public’s eyes may be glazed over when listening to this grandstanding, but maybe they’re gazing when being critical.
Interesting how the boo birds come out against Berkman Fellow Wales and Wikipedia at about the time a “competitor” is being announced. Coincidence or treachery in the blogosphere?
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Steve Garfield
I was deleted for not being famous enough.
This week I was featured in the Wall Street Journal, The LA Times and The Boston Phoneix. Am I famous enough for Wikipedia now?
Mike Miliard of The Phoenix writes: “If anyone can be called the father of video blogging, Steve Garfield is him. And not just because his vlog was one of the first. The fortysomething Jamaica Plain resident, a freelance photographer and video producer, is one of vlogging’s biggest proponents, a cornerstone in the burgeoning vlogging community. Just try doing a Google search on the subject without seeing his name or his wide-grinning mug pop up: “I want YOU to video blog!””
Do I need to ask him to write the entry, if writing it about yourself is considered vanity?
http://tinyurl.com/dnbm8 http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/top/features/documents/05145823.asp http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ca-mass18dec18,1,975201.story?coll=la-headlines-lifestyle&ctrack=1&cset=true
ALTERNATIVE TO WIKIPEDIA
Anyone can have their own page over on Squidoo.
I made one up over here:
http://www.squidoo.com/stevegarfield/
It’s pretty cool.
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Steve Garfield
I was deleted for not being famous enough.
This week I was featured in the Wall Street Journal, The LA Times and The Boston Phoneix. Am I famous enough for Wikipedia now?
Mike Miliard of The Phoenix writes: “If anyone can be called the father of video blogging, Steve Garfield is him. And not just because his vlog was one of the first. The fortysomething Jamaica Plain resident, a freelance photographer and video producer, is one of vlogging’s biggest proponents, a cornerstone in the burgeoning vlogging community. Just try doing a Google search on the subject without seeing his name or his wide-grinning mug pop up: “I want YOU to video blog!””
Do I need to ask him to write the entry, if writing it about yourself is considered vanity?
http://tinyurl.com/dnbm8 http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/top/features/documents/05145823.asp http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ca-mass18dec18,1,975201.story?coll=la-headlines-lifestyle&ctrack=1&cset=true
ALTERNATIVE TO WIKIPEDIA
Anyone can have their own page over on Squidoo.
I made one up over here:
http://www.squidoo.com/stevegarfield/
It’s pretty cool.
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I don’t see any harm in adding information to an entry about oneself, or a subject in which one is involved.
I start to feel a bit uncomfortable when information is removed, especially editing out the roles of other people in ways favorable to oneself.
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I don’t see any harm in adding information to an entry about oneself, or a subject in which one is involved.
I start to feel a bit uncomfortable when information is removed, especially editing out the roles of other people in ways favorable to oneself.
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Although people should be allowed to write their own entries, these entries should be flagged as such and subject to a even more rigorous peer review than others.
A good case in point being Jimmy Wales editing his own Wiki page to remove references to Larry Sanger (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Wales&limit=500&action=history).
Roger Cadenhead’s post on the same subject http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2828
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Although people should be allowed to write their own entries, these entries should be flagged as such and subject to a even more rigorous peer review than others.
A good case in point being Jimmy Wales editing his own Wiki page to remove references to Larry Sanger (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Wales&limit=500&action=history).
Roger Cadenhead’s post on the same subject http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2828
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Even funnier is OJ Simpson lawyer Alan Dershowitz vandalizing his own bio by blanking it. Weird.
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Even funnier is OJ Simpson lawyer Alan Dershowitz vandalizing his own bio by blanking it. Weird.
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Robert, Robert: All these problems you have :-). What about all those people that have no Wikipedia entry? 🙂
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Robert, Robert: All these problems you have :-). What about all those people that have no Wikipedia entry? 🙂
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It is, in fact, a Wikipedia guideline to avoid writing about yourself on Wikipedia, including editing your own autobiography. What if your autobiography is wrong, though? Every Wikipedia page has a Talk page, and it’s certainly kosher for you to pop in over there and say, Hey, I notice this inaccuracy, here are some sources, thank you for your attention and have a nice day. At that point, if no one responds, if it were me, I’d make the edit and make a note in the Talk page that I had tried to do it in compliance with the guidelines but everyone else was too busy.
Maybe I should write an entry on Steve Garfield!
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It is, in fact, a Wikipedia guideline to avoid writing about yourself on Wikipedia, including editing your own autobiography. What if your autobiography is wrong, though? Every Wikipedia page has a Talk page, and it’s certainly kosher for you to pop in over there and say, Hey, I notice this inaccuracy, here are some sources, thank you for your attention and have a nice day. At that point, if no one responds, if it were me, I’d make the edit and make a note in the Talk page that I had tried to do it in compliance with the guidelines but everyone else was too busy.
Maybe I should write an entry on Steve Garfield!
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Hi.
My question may sounds out of place but anyway. I have to ask you.
I just moved from blogger to wordpress for a lot of good reasons, but I would like to have my header just like it was in blogger. How did you add your header to this blog? I’ve tried to find out but it seemed to me until I saw your blog that all the wordpress blogs was using some templates between a short lists and that was it…
(To see my old blog: http://blog2beton.blogspot.com and the new one is http://blog2beton.wordpress.com)
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Hi.
My question may sounds out of place but anyway. I have to ask you.
I just moved from blogger to wordpress for a lot of good reasons, but I would like to have my header just like it was in blogger. How did you add your header to this blog? I’ve tried to find out but it seemed to me until I saw your blog that all the wordpress blogs was using some templates between a short lists and that was it…
(To see my old blog: http://blog2beton.blogspot.com and the new one is http://blog2beton.wordpress.com)
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Robert, there’s an option on each user’s page to send email to that user (if they’ve enabled that function). Alternately, you can contact them by leaving a message on their talk page, and they’ll see it next time they sign in.
BTW, I can’t see anything wrong with posting info on your article’s Talk Page and asking that it be carried over into the main article.
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Robert, there’s an option on each user’s page to send email to that user (if they’ve enabled that function). Alternately, you can contact them by leaving a message on their talk page, and they’ll see it next time they sign in.
BTW, I can’t see anything wrong with posting info on your article’s Talk Page and asking that it be carried over into the main article.
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_Do_ you edit Wikipedia at all? If so, what’s your account name, if I may ask?
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_Do_ you edit Wikipedia at all? If so, what’s your account name, if I may ask?
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who needs to edit one’s your entry
when your good friends will put up
a puff piece for you, complete with
hype for the book you’re writing?
the you-link-to-me-and-i-will-link-back
and-we’ll-all-float-to-the-pagerank-top
mentality of the bloggers is in fine shape!
-bowerbird
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who needs to edit one’s your entry
when your good friends will put up
a puff piece for you, complete with
hype for the book you’re writing?
the you-link-to-me-and-i-will-link-back
and-we’ll-all-float-to-the-pagerank-top
mentality of the bloggers is in fine shape!
-bowerbird
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I am impressed with this page…setup really nice. Doesn’t take forever to load pics, like mine… Very impressive.. http://lincoln.ziarc.com
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I am impressed with this page…setup really nice. Doesn’t take forever to load pics, like mine… Very impressive.. http://lincoln.ziarc.com
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