Mozilla and IE, sitting in a tree…

Over on the Internet Explorer blog they just posted that the IE team went down to meet with Mozilla to decide on an RSS icon. Turns out the IE team is adopting the icon used in Firefox. Anyway, details are on the IE blog. Sure to be on Memeorandum in a few minutes.

27 thoughts on “Mozilla and IE, sitting in a tree…

  1. Wow, they can’t even come up with their own icon? When’s IE7 hitting anyways? 7 as in 2007?

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  2. Wow, they can’t even come up with their own icon? When’s IE7 hitting anyways? 7 as in 2007?

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  3. Christopher: 2006. As to icon, hey, do you give all the Linux folks crud for copying our start menu and minimize and maximize buttons?

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  4. Christopher: 2006. As to icon, hey, do you give all the Linux folks crud for copying our start menu and minimize and maximize buttons?

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  5. Scobleizer, that’s a stupid post of yours. The Linux folks must replicate the Windows UI in order to make the Linux UI a playground that people know already.

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  6. Scobleizer, that’s a stupid post of yours. The Linux folks must replicate the Windows UI in order to make the Linux UI a playground that people know already.

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  7. OK, so IE 6 leaks like a sieve. Basically it falls over after 5 or 6 interactions on an ajax based web page. Why? Memory leaks leaks leaks. For every XMLRPC request, it leaks more than half the memory allocated.

    Which means its totally Web 1.0 capable at best. And the IE team is wasting our time picking out ICONS?

    Fix what you’ve got and get it out there so I can stop busting my ass coding around your illegally obtained monopolistic garbage.

    What a bunch of tools.

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  8. OK, so IE 6 leaks like a sieve. Basically it falls over after 5 or 6 interactions on an ajax based web page. Why? Memory leaks leaks leaks. For every XMLRPC request, it leaks more than half the memory allocated.

    Which means its totally Web 1.0 capable at best. And the IE team is wasting our time picking out ICONS?

    Fix what you’ve got and get it out there so I can stop busting my ass coding around your illegally obtained monopolistic garbage.

    What a bunch of tools.

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  9. This is indeed excellent news. Not only because of the collaboration between the two camps, but because the orange XML and RSS icons are not being used.

    A feed is a feed whether it uses RSS, Atom. The orange XML one is especially misleading. Dave Winer is gonna be unhappy about this news! πŸ™‚

    RSS is just a file format. As is Atom. Personally I like a more generic term, like MS’s Web Feeds. And what people call it, it doesn’t matter. Google calls their Gmail feeds “web clips” (or something like that). That’s all fine. Feed me baby!!! πŸ™‚

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  10. This is indeed excellent news. Not only because of the collaboration between the two camps, but because the orange XML and RSS icons are not being used.

    A feed is a feed whether it uses RSS, Atom. The orange XML one is especially misleading. Dave Winer is gonna be unhappy about this news! πŸ™‚

    RSS is just a file format. As is Atom. Personally I like a more generic term, like MS’s Web Feeds. And what people call it, it doesn’t matter. Google calls their Gmail feeds “web clips” (or something like that). That’s all fine. Feed me baby!!! πŸ™‚

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  11. Innocent bystander – IE6 is still in beta. Firefox 1.5 is currently falling over every 5 hours on my PC. I know what I’ll gladly be using IE6 once Vista is released. Firefox is a dog. It sucks up my memory with multiple tabs and cripples my 2GB AMD 3600+.

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  12. Innocent bystander – IE6 is still in beta. Firefox 1.5 is currently falling over every 5 hours on my PC. I know what I’ll gladly be using IE6 once Vista is released. Firefox is a dog. It sucks up my memory with multiple tabs and cripples my 2GB AMD 3600+.

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  13. Coulter: you should be taking the opposite viewpoint. IE team DID come up with icons, which seemed rather overbearing of them. They went ahead and worked with Mozilla to decide on a single one, which is a very good non-Microsoft thing to do. Even better, they went with Firefox’s icon.

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  14. Coulter: you should be taking the opposite viewpoint. IE team DID come up with icons, which seemed rather overbearing of them. They went ahead and worked with Mozilla to decide on a single one, which is a very good non-Microsoft thing to do. Even better, they went with Firefox’s icon.

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  15. Good for the IE team. This shows they recognize Mozilla as a player in this space rather than dismissing it or calling it a “cancer”. A positive development, no doubt.

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  16. MK: Runs like a dog? I must say I have not experienced that at all. IE, at least version 6, is just not there anymore. When I see someone using IE I just can’t understand why they would. The speed, the tabs, extensions, etc., etc., of FF are some of many reasons to switch. Of course, that is until you hit a website which doesn’t play friendly and requires IE. πŸ™‚

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  17. MK: Runs like a dog? I must say I have not experienced that at all. IE, at least version 6, is just not there anymore. When I see someone using IE I just can’t understand why they would. The speed, the tabs, extensions, etc., etc., of FF are some of many reasons to switch. Of course, that is until you hit a website which doesn’t play friendly and requires IE. πŸ™‚

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  18. MK – are you high?

    “IE6 is still in beta.”

    IE 6 is 5 years old and a buggy piece of crap. It is the garbage browser that MS insisted was core to the Windows OS and was convicted of foisting upon the public against their best interest by the US DOJ.

    Did you mean IE 7? So fix the bugs in 6, call it 7, and ship it. Put new features in IE 8 or 9 or something. Bottom line, MS’s flagship browser is the worst one on the web and as a web developer, all I want to say to M$ this week is “ASSHOLES GET A CLUE AND FIX YOUR HACK!”

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  19. MK – are you high?

    “IE6 is still in beta.”

    IE 6 is 5 years old and a buggy piece of crap. It is the garbage browser that MS insisted was core to the Windows OS and was convicted of foisting upon the public against their best interest by the US DOJ.

    Did you mean IE 7? So fix the bugs in 6, call it 7, and ship it. Put new features in IE 8 or 9 or something. Bottom line, MS’s flagship browser is the worst one on the web and as a web developer, all I want to say to M$ this week is “ASSHOLES GET A CLUE AND FIX YOUR HACK!”

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  20. I really can’t see what all the fuss is over an icon. Now if they got together and discuseed compliance with the w3c I would be alittle more jovial about hte whole matter.

    I am truly tired of having to come up with hacks for IE – no matter what version. So why don’t they just pay Mozilla to give ’em a a good browser and then IE can start up from there?

    Chris

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  21. I really can’t see what all the fuss is over an icon. Now if they got together and discuseed compliance with the w3c I would be alittle more jovial about hte whole matter.

    I am truly tired of having to come up with hacks for IE – no matter what version. So why don’t they just pay Mozilla to give ’em a a good browser and then IE can start up from there?

    Chris

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  22. I prefer using Firefox on my home PC and work laptop but on my kid’s PC it’s IE for them. Why? Because they have an older PC running Win98SE (since some of their games wouldn’t run in XP and 98SE seemed like a good compromise). Initially I put Firefox on for them but it did run like a dog. Hence the switch to IE on their machine. I also couldn’t tie firefox in with their active desktop the way I wanted as I’ve set it up so that their desktop has links to their favourite (safe) websites.

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  23. I prefer using Firefox on my home PC and work laptop but on my kid’s PC it’s IE for them. Why? Because they have an older PC running Win98SE (since some of their games wouldn’t run in XP and 98SE seemed like a good compromise). Initially I put Firefox on for them but it did run like a dog. Hence the switch to IE on their machine. I also couldn’t tie firefox in with their active desktop the way I wanted as I’ve set it up so that their desktop has links to their favourite (safe) websites.

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