Well, I see we made Memeorandum. I can tell it’s Sunday. It’s too easy to get on Memeorandum on Sunday. But the debate about partial or full text RSS/Atom feeds rages on…
Duncan Riley chimes in with a scathing rebuke: Unfortunately once again Scoble’s obsession with himself and his inability to consider the points and perspectives of others once again sees Microsoft’s chief blogging spokesperson reflect poor, self centered judgement upon the choices of others.
Scott Milener takes my side, mostly: “Perhaps it depends on your feed reader.
Jason Salas also agrees with me, and says he has other means of generating revenue so all is not lost.
Phil Burns is totally in my camp, saying “I HATE partial text feeds,” but then goes even further than me and chides folks for not offering BOTH full and partial text feeds. Atom lets you do that explicitly, as I found out when I finally found Tim Bray’s Atom Feed earlier today.
Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is “it’s all about the advertising.” I guess I’d rather be obsessed with whether a site treats me well than with whether or not my readers will see any advertising on my site.
Like James Robertson says, customers have the power.
I have 740 feeds that serve us well. Who else?
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Sometimes I use taskable to scan feeds. That is headline-only. 🙂
Seriously, I also think it depends on your feed reader. I am interested in how people actually Read their feeds. Perhaps something to film, Robert? Shoot some footage of yourself while you go through your 740 feeds? I think it could be useful for yourself, and definitely interesting for others. Usability testing – how do you scan your feeds if you use different tools?
I find all of this very interesting, but the discussion on full vs. partial feeds is the lesser interesting parts of it imho.
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Sometimes I use taskable to scan feeds. That is headline-only. 🙂
Seriously, I also think it depends on your feed reader. I am interested in how people actually Read their feeds. Perhaps something to film, Robert? Shoot some footage of yourself while you go through your 740 feeds? I think it could be useful for yourself, and definitely interesting for others. Usability testing – how do you scan your feeds if you use different tools?
I find all of this very interesting, but the discussion on full vs. partial feeds is the lesser interesting parts of it imho.
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Sometimes I use taskable to scan feeds. That is headline-only. 🙂
Seriously, I also think it depends on your feed reader. I am interested in how people actually Read their feeds. Perhaps something to film, Robert? Shoot some footage of yourself while you go through your 740 feeds? I think it could be useful for yourself, and definitely interesting for others. Usability testing – how do you scan your feeds if you use different tools?
I find all of this very interesting, but the discussion on full vs. partial feeds is the lesser interesting parts of it imho.
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Sometimes I use taskable to scan feeds. That is headline-only. 🙂
Seriously, I also think it depends on your feed reader. I am interested in how people actually Read their feeds. Perhaps something to film, Robert? Shoot some footage of yourself while you go through your 740 feeds? I think it could be useful for yourself, and definitely interesting for others. Usability testing – how do you scan your feeds if you use different tools?
I find all of this very interesting, but the discussion on full vs. partial feeds is the lesser interesting parts of it imho.
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Sometimes I use taskable to scan feeds. That is headline-only. 🙂
Seriously, I also think it depends on your feed reader. I am interested in how people actually Read their feeds. Perhaps something to film, Robert? Shoot some footage of yourself while you go through your 740 feeds? I think it could be useful for yourself, and definitely interesting for others. Usability testing – how do you scan your feeds if you use different tools?
I find all of this very interesting, but the discussion on full vs. partial feeds is the lesser interesting parts of it imho.
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Raymond: yes, that’d be interesting. I find I actually read quite a bit of the feeds. Why? I use my Tablet PC. I poke at the feed’s folder, which opens up in three panes. Pane one shows the folder icon in a list of other folder icons. Pane two shows me the items inside that feed. Pane three shows me a preview of the feed.
Pane three is where the action happens. 85% of the time a feed has only one new item in it. Molly.com, for instance, tonight, had one new item in it. So, when I clicked on Molly.com her new item was automatically selected and displayed in pane 3.
I read her headline in pane two, saw it was on a topic that interested me (hint, not cat photos, but rather Web design and CSS) and read a paragraph over on the right. That too interested me (she used all capitals which was like screaming at me) so I read more and more.
If at any point in this a feed gets boring I just mark all as read and go to the next feed. It’s a grazing metaphor. I’m looking for a green blade of grass so I’ll look through a lot of brown grass to get that.
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Raymond: yes, that’d be interesting. I find I actually read quite a bit of the feeds. Why? I use my Tablet PC. I poke at the feed’s folder, which opens up in three panes. Pane one shows the folder icon in a list of other folder icons. Pane two shows me the items inside that feed. Pane three shows me a preview of the feed.
Pane three is where the action happens. 85% of the time a feed has only one new item in it. Molly.com, for instance, tonight, had one new item in it. So, when I clicked on Molly.com her new item was automatically selected and displayed in pane 3.
I read her headline in pane two, saw it was on a topic that interested me (hint, not cat photos, but rather Web design and CSS) and read a paragraph over on the right. That too interested me (she used all capitals which was like screaming at me) so I read more and more.
If at any point in this a feed gets boring I just mark all as read and go to the next feed. It’s a grazing metaphor. I’m looking for a green blade of grass so I’ll look through a lot of brown grass to get that.
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Raymond: yes, that’d be interesting. I find I actually read quite a bit of the feeds. Why? I use my Tablet PC. I poke at the feed’s folder, which opens up in three panes. Pane one shows the folder icon in a list of other folder icons. Pane two shows me the items inside that feed. Pane three shows me a preview of the feed.
Pane three is where the action happens. 85% of the time a feed has only one new item in it. Molly.com, for instance, tonight, had one new item in it. So, when I clicked on Molly.com her new item was automatically selected and displayed in pane 3.
I read her headline in pane two, saw it was on a topic that interested me (hint, not cat photos, but rather Web design and CSS) and read a paragraph over on the right. That too interested me (she used all capitals which was like screaming at me) so I read more and more.
If at any point in this a feed gets boring I just mark all as read and go to the next feed. It’s a grazing metaphor. I’m looking for a green blade of grass so I’ll look through a lot of brown grass to get that.
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Raymond: yes, that’d be interesting. I find I actually read quite a bit of the feeds. Why? I use my Tablet PC. I poke at the feed’s folder, which opens up in three panes. Pane one shows the folder icon in a list of other folder icons. Pane two shows me the items inside that feed. Pane three shows me a preview of the feed.
Pane three is where the action happens. 85% of the time a feed has only one new item in it. Molly.com, for instance, tonight, had one new item in it. So, when I clicked on Molly.com her new item was automatically selected and displayed in pane 3.
I read her headline in pane two, saw it was on a topic that interested me (hint, not cat photos, but rather Web design and CSS) and read a paragraph over on the right. That too interested me (she used all capitals which was like screaming at me) so I read more and more.
If at any point in this a feed gets boring I just mark all as read and go to the next feed. It’s a grazing metaphor. I’m looking for a green blade of grass so I’ll look through a lot of brown grass to get that.
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You are *still* subscribed to my RSS 0.91 (summary only) feed. I provide both a summary and full content in my atom 1.0 feed:
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/index.atom
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You are *still* subscribed to my RSS 0.91 (summary only) feed. I provide both a summary and full content in my atom 1.0 feed:
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/index.atom
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You are *still* subscribed to my RSS 0.91 (summary only) feed. I provide both a summary and full content in my atom 1.0 feed:
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/index.atom
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You are *still* subscribed to my RSS 0.91 (summary only) feed. I provide both a summary and full content in my atom 1.0 feed:
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/index.atom
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You are *still* subscribed to my RSS 0.91 (summary only) feed. I provide both a summary and full content in my atom 1.0 feed:
http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/index.atom
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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RSS 2.0 can offer both summary and full content, just like yours does here; and if you use something like Bloglines, you get to set your preference.
Most blogging tools offer either Atom or RSS 2.0, so for blogs, there shouldn’t be much argument unless your reader doesn’t give you the option. In that case, complain to the company that makes your reader, not the people who are focusing on content. As for non-blogging feeds, most I have are commercial and summaries pointing me to the site and unless they add advertising into their feeds, I doubt that’ll change.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Sam, strange, I thought I changed that yesterday. I’ll make sure it takes this time.
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Give unto full the things that are full, and give unto partial the things that are partial…
Meanwhile, in the real ‘Microsoft News’ world…
Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) tools….The not-so-Great-Plains, as Doug Burgum downgraded to “Chairman” of Microsoft Business Solutions….Monad book in pre-release….Mendocino Project (SAP and MFST) picking up steam….LG Launches Microsoft-Powered DVR….Vista shipping target is August 31st 2006….Microsoft Censors UN Document, backlash serious….500 retail spots in 8 Indian cities planned….Legal Expert Andrew Updegrove Slams Microsoft’s “Open” XML Initiative….Gartner Group, pressured by MFST, retreats from Vista deployment anouncement, weakly claiming things have “been misinterpreted in some instances”….Exchange 12 in 64-bit only not making customers happy – screwing roadmaps up….Tablet PCs, still stuck in a niche, usually bullish Enderle saying, “Tablet PC was a separate effort, it wasn’t getting the right level of company support”….Microsoft Launches Hosting Partner Program…
And the Xbox 360 launch trainwreck toots along to Europe, massively short-clipped on Xbox 360 units, all the while reports of glitches and overheats increasing, with now more than 100 Xbox 360 Support Knowledge Base (KB) articles. MFST sticking by the “a very small fraction” standard PR line, while old Xboxes are burning down houses, and Xbox fanboys turning into PS3 hounds the world over. And the world itself gets a new term for MFST-styled screw-ups, “three red lights”.
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Give unto full the things that are full, and give unto partial the things that are partial…
Meanwhile, in the real ‘Microsoft News’ world…
Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) tools….The not-so-Great-Plains, as Doug Burgum downgraded to “Chairman” of Microsoft Business Solutions….Monad book in pre-release….Mendocino Project (SAP and MFST) picking up steam….LG Launches Microsoft-Powered DVR….Vista shipping target is August 31st 2006….Microsoft Censors UN Document, backlash serious….500 retail spots in 8 Indian cities planned….Legal Expert Andrew Updegrove Slams Microsoft’s “Open” XML Initiative….Gartner Group, pressured by MFST, retreats from Vista deployment anouncement, weakly claiming things have “been misinterpreted in some instances”….Exchange 12 in 64-bit only not making customers happy – screwing roadmaps up….Tablet PCs, still stuck in a niche, usually bullish Enderle saying, “Tablet PC was a separate effort, it wasn’t getting the right level of company support”….Microsoft Launches Hosting Partner Program…
And the Xbox 360 launch trainwreck toots along to Europe, massively short-clipped on Xbox 360 units, all the while reports of glitches and overheats increasing, with now more than 100 Xbox 360 Support Knowledge Base (KB) articles. MFST sticking by the “a very small fraction” standard PR line, while old Xboxes are burning down houses, and Xbox fanboys turning into PS3 hounds the world over. And the world itself gets a new term for MFST-styled screw-ups, “three red lights”.
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Give unto full the things that are full, and give unto partial the things that are partial…
Meanwhile, in the real ‘Microsoft News’ world…
Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) tools….The not-so-Great-Plains, as Doug Burgum downgraded to “Chairman” of Microsoft Business Solutions….Monad book in pre-release….Mendocino Project (SAP and MFST) picking up steam….LG Launches Microsoft-Powered DVR….Vista shipping target is August 31st 2006….Microsoft Censors UN Document, backlash serious….500 retail spots in 8 Indian cities planned….Legal Expert Andrew Updegrove Slams Microsoft’s “Open” XML Initiative….Gartner Group, pressured by MFST, retreats from Vista deployment anouncement, weakly claiming things have “been misinterpreted in some instances”….Exchange 12 in 64-bit only not making customers happy – screwing roadmaps up….Tablet PCs, still stuck in a niche, usually bullish Enderle saying, “Tablet PC was a separate effort, it wasn’t getting the right level of company support”….Microsoft Launches Hosting Partner Program…
And the Xbox 360 launch trainwreck toots along to Europe, massively short-clipped on Xbox 360 units, all the while reports of glitches and overheats increasing, with now more than 100 Xbox 360 Support Knowledge Base (KB) articles. MFST sticking by the “a very small fraction” standard PR line, while old Xboxes are burning down houses, and Xbox fanboys turning into PS3 hounds the world over. And the world itself gets a new term for MFST-styled screw-ups, “three red lights”.
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Give unto full the things that are full, and give unto partial the things that are partial…
Meanwhile, in the real ‘Microsoft News’ world…
Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) tools….The not-so-Great-Plains, as Doug Burgum downgraded to “Chairman” of Microsoft Business Solutions….Monad book in pre-release….Mendocino Project (SAP and MFST) picking up steam….LG Launches Microsoft-Powered DVR….Vista shipping target is August 31st 2006….Microsoft Censors UN Document, backlash serious….500 retail spots in 8 Indian cities planned….Legal Expert Andrew Updegrove Slams Microsoft’s “Open” XML Initiative….Gartner Group, pressured by MFST, retreats from Vista deployment anouncement, weakly claiming things have “been misinterpreted in some instances”….Exchange 12 in 64-bit only not making customers happy – screwing roadmaps up….Tablet PCs, still stuck in a niche, usually bullish Enderle saying, “Tablet PC was a separate effort, it wasn’t getting the right level of company support”….Microsoft Launches Hosting Partner Program…
And the Xbox 360 launch trainwreck toots along to Europe, massively short-clipped on Xbox 360 units, all the while reports of glitches and overheats increasing, with now more than 100 Xbox 360 Support Knowledge Base (KB) articles. MFST sticking by the “a very small fraction” standard PR line, while old Xboxes are burning down houses, and Xbox fanboys turning into PS3 hounds the world over. And the world itself gets a new term for MFST-styled screw-ups, “three red lights”.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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It depends on the person reading and how you are reading. I would be ok with partial feeds if the content of the partial feed was a quick summary of whats in the full feed. For quick scan that would work.
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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I agree with Scoble and I don’t subscribe to feeds that only have partial text. And there were some really good feeds that I had to delete. But my time is valuable and I only have a limited amount of time between classes to glance at my feed reader (I use JetBrains Omea Reader 2.0, which is free and the best one I’ve found of yet). If I have to spend time reading a small primer and then clicking on a link and waiting for that load (with all it’s wonderful graphics), then I’m not a happy camper.
I would assume the whole point of partial feeds is to draw the user to the site, a marketing gimmick of sorts. With me and countless others, it’s having the opposite effect and driving viewers away. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, not Rich Site Summary (at least in my book).
Some of my friends have blogs that only provide partial feeds and I tell them that I won’t subscribe unless they use a blog service that allows full feeds. I even offer to help them move over to a new blog service (like WordPress.com).
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How many commercial web sites of significant traffic are in your 740 feeds?
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How many commercial web sites of significant traffic are in your 740 feeds?
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How many commercial web sites of significant traffic are in your 740 feeds?
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How many commercial web sites of significant traffic are in your 740 feeds?
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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Robert: “Shhh, Phil, see when people say they for partial text feeds only what they really mean to say is ‘it’s all about the advertising.'”
In some cases, sure. But most of the bloggers I know who stick to partial content do so because they don’t want to encourage the republishing of their content. They’re not interested in being reblogged, publicly aggregated, or splogged, and a full-text feed is an invitation to all those things.
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I don’t think it is about the revenue. Everybody has a different idea of what it means to publish using an XML based format.
Some deel that if you are a power reader the fewer the words to express an idea the better. What bothers me is that most full articles are embellished with inline style and pictures of someones cat. Is anyone wrong? Of course not. To those who delete short summaries you are deleting someones idea of what it means to publish with RSS.
Like I said, it is not about the ads.
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I don’t think it is about the revenue. Everybody has a different idea of what it means to publish using an XML based format.
Some deel that if you are a power reader the fewer the words to express an idea the better. What bothers me is that most full articles are embellished with inline style and pictures of someones cat. Is anyone wrong? Of course not. To those who delete short summaries you are deleting someones idea of what it means to publish with RSS.
Like I said, it is not about the ads.
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I don’t think it is about the revenue. Everybody has a different idea of what it means to publish using an XML based format.
Some deel that if you are a power reader the fewer the words to express an idea the better. What bothers me is that most full articles are embellished with inline style and pictures of someones cat. Is anyone wrong? Of course not. To those who delete short summaries you are deleting someones idea of what it means to publish with RSS.
Like I said, it is not about the ads.
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I don’t think it is about the revenue. Everybody has a different idea of what it means to publish using an XML based format.
Some deel that if you are a power reader the fewer the words to express an idea the better. What bothers me is that most full articles are embellished with inline style and pictures of someones cat. Is anyone wrong? Of course not. To those who delete short summaries you are deleting someones idea of what it means to publish with RSS.
Like I said, it is not about the ads.
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I don’t think it is about the revenue. Everybody has a different idea of what it means to publish using an XML based format.
Some deel that if you are a power reader the fewer the words to express an idea the better. What bothers me is that most full articles are embellished with inline style and pictures of someones cat. Is anyone wrong? Of course not. To those who delete short summaries you are deleting someones idea of what it means to publish with RSS.
Like I said, it is not about the ads.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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Why argue or agonise about this when you can just let the users choose? Using Feedburner/Feedblitz, on my blog I’ve given readers the option to subscribe for full posts, excerpts or headlines only, via either email or feed (or both if they really want to). And of course I give the full feed’s URL to Sitemaps and the like. The howto and code is in my blog post.
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