John Dvorak gives interesting reason for MSFT’s bad press

John Dvorak has an interesting theory about media bias and technology reporting. Yes, he pulls the Mac card out. That’s what opinion leaders do when they want more links, more traffic, and more hate mail. But, I have noticed the same bias — even at blogging conferences. I take note of such things. At blogging conferences you’ll see something like 60% Macs. So, will they be able to write authoritatively about anything that comes down on the Windows side of the house? You telling me you read me for my Mac tips and tricks? Heheh!

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64 thoughts on “John Dvorak gives interesting reason for MSFT’s bad press

  1. I just don’t get this attitude of `Mac users can’t discuss Windows rationally because they don’t use Windows.’ There’s certainly Dvorak’s article, and even Dave Winer wrote “Mac users… should try Windows sometime.”

    I don’t quite understand this. Remember, Windows is 90-97% of the desktop market – how can any Mac user *not* be exposed to Windows? There are probably some niche users (graphic artists for example) that get to use Macs at home and Macs at work, but every Mac user I know has to use a Windows machine for work. If not at work, people have to use Windows at public internet terminals, or to access government databases, or for public presentations (all of which I’ve done in the last 4 days), and so on.

    Sorry, I just don’t buy the belief that Mac users don’t know Windows. They may not be *experts* in Windows, but then again, most *Windows users* aren’t experts in Windows.

    On the other hand, I know many Windows users who don’t realize that Apple still makes computers – or they ask “isn’t Apple owned by Microsoft?” 😉

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  2. To bad it’s a shit theory: can we assume that you, Dvorak, and the rest of the softies are completely biased?

    Well, yeah, of course, we can. …But is that valid?

    And more bloggers use Macs, but more blogs are about and support Microsoft? Why did you refute your own theory (supporting Dvorak’s theory)?

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  3. I just don’t get this attitude of `Mac users can’t discuss Windows rationally because they don’t use Windows.’ There’s certainly Dvorak’s article, and even Dave Winer wrote “Mac users… should try Windows sometime.”

    I don’t quite understand this. Remember, Windows is 90-97% of the desktop market – how can any Mac user *not* be exposed to Windows? There are probably some niche users (graphic artists for example) that get to use Macs at home and Macs at work, but every Mac user I know has to use a Windows machine for work. If not at work, people have to use Windows at public internet terminals, or to access government databases, or for public presentations (all of which I’ve done in the last 4 days), and so on.

    Sorry, I just don’t buy the belief that Mac users don’t know Windows. They may not be *experts* in Windows, but then again, most *Windows users* aren’t experts in Windows.

    On the other hand, I know many Windows users who don’t realize that Apple still makes computers – or they ask “isn’t Apple owned by Microsoft?” 😉

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  4. To bad it’s a shit theory: can we assume that you, Dvorak, and the rest of the softies are completely biased?

    Well, yeah, of course, we can. …But is that valid?

    And more bloggers use Macs, but more blogs are about and support Microsoft? Why did you refute your own theory (supporting Dvorak’s theory)?

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  5. Look at the difference in the announcements from Apple and Microsoft. Apple is very secretive about future products. When they do make an announcement, you can order their product from their web site. Microsoft hypes their products for years telling everyone how great their software will be in a few years. When they do have a sincere announcement about a new product, it gets lost in all their old hype announcements and Apple’s real announcements. Also, when they do ship a product, they’ve dropped many of the features that made it sound so good in the early hype. I’ve grown numb to anything Microsoft announces. I suspect the Media has too.

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  6. Look at the difference in the announcements from Apple and Microsoft. Apple is very secretive about future products. When they do make an announcement, you can order their product from their web site. Microsoft hypes their products for years telling everyone how great their software will be in a few years. When they do have a sincere announcement about a new product, it gets lost in all their old hype announcements and Apple’s real announcements. Also, when they do ship a product, they’ve dropped many of the features that made it sound so good in the early hype. I’ve grown numb to anything Microsoft announces. I suspect the Media has too.

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  7. Media is biased in many ways, which is a difficult to solve problem. You see 60% Macs at blogging conferences, I see 80% white males. What is worse?

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  8. Media is biased in many ways, which is a difficult to solve problem. You see 60% Macs at blogging conferences, I see 80% white males. What is worse?

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  9. Dvorak’s argues that Apple’s media coverage is out of proportion with the Macintosh platform’s minority market share. He does not mention that:

    1) The iPod is a distinct platform.
    2) The iPod has majority market share.

    The Mac platform gets significantly less coverage, although it does get a good share from the “Mac-biased” journalists Dvorak makes reference to– David Pogue and Walt Mossberg come to mind. But I’d argue that since Apple is a trendsetter and the Mac platform is so often a catagory leader in innovation, Apple has earned disproportionate coverage.

    I have no doubt that more people writing blogs use Windows, whatever evidence suggests at the blogging conferences you attend. I’d speculate that a disproportionate number of a- and b-list bloggers use Macs, but not so many that they could eclipse the millions of others on Spaces, Livejournal, Blogger, etc.

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  10. Dvorak’s argues that Apple’s media coverage is out of proportion with the Macintosh platform’s minority market share. He does not mention that:

    1) The iPod is a distinct platform.
    2) The iPod has majority market share.

    The Mac platform gets significantly less coverage, although it does get a good share from the “Mac-biased” journalists Dvorak makes reference to– David Pogue and Walt Mossberg come to mind. But I’d argue that since Apple is a trendsetter and the Mac platform is so often a catagory leader in innovation, Apple has earned disproportionate coverage.

    I have no doubt that more people writing blogs use Windows, whatever evidence suggests at the blogging conferences you attend. I’d speculate that a disproportionate number of a- and b-list bloggers use Macs, but not so many that they could eclipse the millions of others on Spaces, Livejournal, Blogger, etc.

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  11. woodb2: Microsoft is building platforms, and thousands of companies (and many more thousands of jobs) depend on those platforms. You can’t do the Apple equivalent of producing rabbits out of hats if you are trying to get hundreds of thousands of programmers building on your platform, and thus enabling many more thousands of companies to get ready to roll stuff out to users.

    Apple can develop Apple software to run on its own Apple hardware and sell it direct or from Apple shops, with an Apple online service (.mac), and screw anybody else.

    I’m not saying Microsoft couldn’t do bettter, but it’s a completely different business model.

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  12. woodb2: Microsoft is building platforms, and thousands of companies (and many more thousands of jobs) depend on those platforms. You can’t do the Apple equivalent of producing rabbits out of hats if you are trying to get hundreds of thousands of programmers building on your platform, and thus enabling many more thousands of companies to get ready to roll stuff out to users.

    Apple can develop Apple software to run on its own Apple hardware and sell it direct or from Apple shops, with an Apple online service (.mac), and screw anybody else.

    I’m not saying Microsoft couldn’t do bettter, but it’s a completely different business model.

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  13. Herb “Sorry, I just don’t buy the belief that Mac users don’t know Windows. They may not be *experts* in Windows”

    I don’t know any Mac users in my circle of friends who have not had to endure Windows – some of us don’t mind it but none of use are ‘ma and pa’ users.

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  14. Herb “Sorry, I just don’t buy the belief that Mac users don’t know Windows. They may not be *experts* in Windows”

    I don’t know any Mac users in my circle of friends who have not had to endure Windows – some of us don’t mind it but none of use are ‘ma and pa’ users.

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  15. “I’m not saying Microsoft couldn’t do bettter, but it’s a completely different business model. ”

    woodb2: that’s not the point. We’re discussing marketing and press reaction. Microsoft can’t expect or be jealous of Apple’s public relations exactly because they do have a different business model. It has nothing to do with the machine that it’s written on. No one wants to write about 50 technologies with obscure acronyms or names like Microsoft Windows Media Foundation 2006 Service Pack 5… especially when Microsoft talks it up for 5 years in advance. That’s the point.

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  16. “I’m not saying Microsoft couldn’t do bettter, but it’s a completely different business model. ”

    woodb2: that’s not the point. We’re discussing marketing and press reaction. Microsoft can’t expect or be jealous of Apple’s public relations exactly because they do have a different business model. It has nothing to do with the machine that it’s written on. No one wants to write about 50 technologies with obscure acronyms or names like Microsoft Windows Media Foundation 2006 Service Pack 5… especially when Microsoft talks it up for 5 years in advance. That’s the point.

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  17. “Media is biased in many ways, which is a difficult to solve problem. You see 60% Macs at blogging conferences, I see 80% white males. What is worse?”

    Microsoft is a big ad sponsor, thus revenue generator, of the media you refer to. The discussion ends here.

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  18. “Media is biased in many ways, which is a difficult to solve problem. You see 60% Macs at blogging conferences, I see 80% white males. What is worse?”

    Microsoft is a big ad sponsor, thus revenue generator, of the media you refer to. The discussion ends here.

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  19. I think many Mac users *have* tried windows.. But Windows as in Windows 95 or 98. I know of one guy, Graphic Artist, who always supports Macs over PCs.. Which I kind of get, but many of his arguments are stuff that hasn’t been issues since, like, Windows 98.

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  20. I think many Mac users *have* tried windows.. But Windows as in Windows 95 or 98. I know of one guy, Graphic Artist, who always supports Macs over PCs.. Which I kind of get, but many of his arguments are stuff that hasn’t been issues since, like, Windows 98.

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  21. I don’t see Dvorak’s point. So what if mainstream media coverage is biased. It isn’t hurting MS’s sales (at least in any significant percentage). Dvorak talks about mainstream media. How many that are making the technical buying decisions listen to what mainstream media is saying? Most of the people who recommend solutions listen to the technical IT media, like Ziff-Davis (CNET and ZDNet), instead. Therefore, the bias is pretty much the other way (i.e., overwhelming in favor of Microsoft. Only recently has one see more discussion in the technical IT media to cover alternative OS’s, such as Linux and Mac OSX. The significant majority of the articles, however, are still geared to the Windows arena. These are what influence the technical people who recommend the solutions to the IT managers. If the IE managers mains sources of information (CIO magazine and such) are Windows centric. Dvorak is just trying to create waves. He has not real point.

    TC

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  22. I don’t see Dvorak’s point. So what if mainstream media coverage is biased. It isn’t hurting MS’s sales (at least in any significant percentage). Dvorak talks about mainstream media. How many that are making the technical buying decisions listen to what mainstream media is saying? Most of the people who recommend solutions listen to the technical IT media, like Ziff-Davis (CNET and ZDNet), instead. Therefore, the bias is pretty much the other way (i.e., overwhelming in favor of Microsoft. Only recently has one see more discussion in the technical IT media to cover alternative OS’s, such as Linux and Mac OSX. The significant majority of the articles, however, are still geared to the Windows arena. These are what influence the technical people who recommend the solutions to the IT managers. If the IE managers mains sources of information (CIO magazine and such) are Windows centric. Dvorak is just trying to create waves. He has not real point.

    TC

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  23. My first computer was an XT running dual floppy drives. You know the routine, program disk in drive A, data disk in drive B. Monochrome screen and when I did desktop publishing with it, I waited at least 5 minutes (or so it seemed) for the screen to redraw.

    Some years later I was exposed to the Mac in a small advertising agency using it to do the artwork for print ads.

    I later purchased my first Mac, a blazingly fast Power PC at 66Mhz 🙂

    Since then I have had both the PC and a Mac and I have since 1995 owned nothing but a Apple machine (I used to keep a PC, just in case I was forced to view a Word/Excel file) but now with the interoperability between Word and Excel I have nit fired up the my P2 133Mhz PC (windows 95) and it is fast becoming a boat anchor.

    So what is the point? Of course there would be a bias by myself or anyone else. I don’t care who you are or what journalism school you went to – everyone has a bias.

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  24. My first computer was an XT running dual floppy drives. You know the routine, program disk in drive A, data disk in drive B. Monochrome screen and when I did desktop publishing with it, I waited at least 5 minutes (or so it seemed) for the screen to redraw.

    Some years later I was exposed to the Mac in a small advertising agency using it to do the artwork for print ads.

    I later purchased my first Mac, a blazingly fast Power PC at 66Mhz 🙂

    Since then I have had both the PC and a Mac and I have since 1995 owned nothing but a Apple machine (I used to keep a PC, just in case I was forced to view a Word/Excel file) but now with the interoperability between Word and Excel I have nit fired up the my P2 133Mhz PC (windows 95) and it is fast becoming a boat anchor.

    So what is the point? Of course there would be a bias by myself or anyone else. I don’t care who you are or what journalism school you went to – everyone has a bias.

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  25. Not really Jason, I definately fall into one of those Windows at work, Mac at home group. I have regularly used for work Windows 95, 98, 2000, and XP. Even as a type right now, I am at a XP workstation. But when I get home to my G4 ibook I’ll be alot happier.

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  26. Not really Jason, I definately fall into one of those Windows at work, Mac at home group. I have regularly used for work Windows 95, 98, 2000, and XP. Even as a type right now, I am at a XP workstation. But when I get home to my G4 ibook I’ll be alot happier.

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  27. Oh, I just love it when MAC fanatics turn a debate, into a MAC advertisement. Most overhyped thing ever! Save yourself some money and buy Windows!!

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  28. Oh, I just love it when MAC fanatics turn a debate, into a MAC advertisement. Most overhyped thing ever! Save yourself some money and buy Windows!!

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  29. “I think many Mac users *have* tried windows.. But Windows as in Windows 95 or 98.”

    This is very true. Heck, I know some Mac user who won’t even touch a Windows box. However, the same thing can be said for Windows users. Most Windows users stick their noses up at Macs. When I ask them if they have tried OSX, they think I’m refering to some Star Trek term. The fact of the matter is that it goes both ways. Regardless of the market share b/t the two, there no middle ground for most people. It’s either one or the other. Heck, I use both at work and both at home. I’ll likely have both until the end of time!!

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  30. “I think many Mac users *have* tried windows.. But Windows as in Windows 95 or 98.”

    This is very true. Heck, I know some Mac user who won’t even touch a Windows box. However, the same thing can be said for Windows users. Most Windows users stick their noses up at Macs. When I ask them if they have tried OSX, they think I’m refering to some Star Trek term. The fact of the matter is that it goes both ways. Regardless of the market share b/t the two, there no middle ground for most people. It’s either one or the other. Heck, I use both at work and both at home. I’ll likely have both until the end of time!!

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  31. Woodb,

    You need to understand that the purpose of MS’s announcements is to discourage their competion. Vaporware from the monopoly is a tremendous deterrent to funding, as well as to customers. Look at how Go PenPoint was killed by the Pen Windows vaporware announcement, for example.

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  32. Woodb,

    You need to understand that the purpose of MS’s announcements is to discourage their competion. Vaporware from the monopoly is a tremendous deterrent to funding, as well as to customers. Look at how Go PenPoint was killed by the Pen Windows vaporware announcement, for example.

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  33. It’s probably the circles that the commentators frequent. Dvorak hangs out with guys like Leo Laporte and Kevin Rose, who are Mac people, so maybe he assumes more people are keen on the Mac than they really are.

    I see something similar: many colleagues of mine use Windows and hate Macs with a vengeance. Know little about them, but know they hate them.

    The rest are “bi-OSexual” – they use Windows are work because they have to, and have Macs at home.

    Really though, I think the press coverage has a lot to do with El Señor Jobs’ famed REALITY DISTORTION FIELD. The guy is a very gifted showman, the PT Barnum of our time. I was watching the latest SteveNote – http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf05/ – and the way he plays the crowd is, well, “phenomenal…!”

    One thing I can never understand is the deep seated antipathy Microsoft employees and shills have towards Apple. A real chip on their shoulder. Chris Pirillo is a good example. It’s silly as Microsoft makes a lot money out of the Mac platform, and nothing out of Linux. And it’s ultimately Linux that will bring Microsoft to its knees, not Mac.

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  34. It’s probably the circles that the commentators frequent. Dvorak hangs out with guys like Leo Laporte and Kevin Rose, who are Mac people, so maybe he assumes more people are keen on the Mac than they really are.

    I see something similar: many colleagues of mine use Windows and hate Macs with a vengeance. Know little about them, but know they hate them.

    The rest are “bi-OSexual” – they use Windows are work because they have to, and have Macs at home.

    Really though, I think the press coverage has a lot to do with El Señor Jobs’ famed REALITY DISTORTION FIELD. The guy is a very gifted showman, the PT Barnum of our time. I was watching the latest SteveNote – http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf05/ – and the way he plays the crowd is, well, “phenomenal…!”

    One thing I can never understand is the deep seated antipathy Microsoft employees and shills have towards Apple. A real chip on their shoulder. Chris Pirillo is a good example. It’s silly as Microsoft makes a lot money out of the Mac platform, and nothing out of Linux. And it’s ultimately Linux that will bring Microsoft to its knees, not Mac.

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  35. BTW, the lesson that MS can learn from Apple if they want to ever develop any credibility at all: STFU until the product is shipping.

    Let people wonder what you’re up to. Of course, the critical part is actually bringing out a product that’s worth using, and that’s where MS consistently fails, but they really need to learn to just SHUT UP for a start.

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  36. BTW, the lesson that MS can learn from Apple if they want to ever develop any credibility at all: STFU until the product is shipping.

    Let people wonder what you’re up to. Of course, the critical part is actually bringing out a product that’s worth using, and that’s where MS consistently fails, but they really need to learn to just SHUT UP for a start.

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  38. Ya, Dvorak was biased, but isn’t this site biased too? I see the Scobleizer as a place for Windows fans to poke fun and giggle at the minority. No harm done; I hear a bunch of white people did it. In any case, this site is “news media” just as much as Dvorak is — if the readers don’t see that, well… ignorance is bliss.

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  39. Ya, Dvorak was biased, but isn’t this site biased too? I see the Scobleizer as a place for Windows fans to poke fun and giggle at the minority. No harm done; I hear a bunch of white people did it. In any case, this site is “news media” just as much as Dvorak is — if the readers don’t see that, well… ignorance is bliss.

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  40. Media bias *in favor of* Macintosh? Where? Am I the only one who recalls the weekly “Apple is doomed” pile-on from about 10 years ago?

    The conventional wisdom was that the Mac ecosystem was too small to support a developer community and there was no way for Apple to survive. Microsoft had all but won the OS war. Case closed. Some previously useful mags like InfoWorld became PR arms for MS – in the end it destroyed their credibility and they’ve become irrelevant.

    What does seem to be true is this: If you want to see tomorrow’s Windows, look at today’s Macintosh. It has been that way most of the time (MS began to approach parity pre-Jobs v 2.0 but has fumbled their gains). Apple is out-executing MS by leaps and bounds and bears watching as it has an impact on the industry disproportionate to its size.

    Its not news media bias. Its bias towards who makes the news.

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  41. Media bias *in favor of* Macintosh? Where? Am I the only one who recalls the weekly “Apple is doomed” pile-on from about 10 years ago?

    The conventional wisdom was that the Mac ecosystem was too small to support a developer community and there was no way for Apple to survive. Microsoft had all but won the OS war. Case closed. Some previously useful mags like InfoWorld became PR arms for MS – in the end it destroyed their credibility and they’ve become irrelevant.

    What does seem to be true is this: If you want to see tomorrow’s Windows, look at today’s Macintosh. It has been that way most of the time (MS began to approach parity pre-Jobs v 2.0 but has fumbled their gains). Apple is out-executing MS by leaps and bounds and bears watching as it has an impact on the industry disproportionate to its size.

    Its not news media bias. Its bias towards who makes the news.

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  42. The answer is quite simple.

    Apple has consistently innovated. The media responds to that.

    Microsoft does copy-cat products that are telegraphed in advance. Virtual Earth? Big deal, been there done that with Google Maps. New interface for Hotmail? Yahoo! and Gmail beat you to it.

    The Tablet and Media Center PCs certainly got plenty of press when they launched. So if you consider that innovation, Microsoft has gotten some attention.

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  43. The answer is quite simple.

    Apple has consistently innovated. The media responds to that.

    Microsoft does copy-cat products that are telegraphed in advance. Virtual Earth? Big deal, been there done that with Google Maps. New interface for Hotmail? Yahoo! and Gmail beat you to it.

    The Tablet and Media Center PCs certainly got plenty of press when they launched. So if you consider that innovation, Microsoft has gotten some attention.

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  44. Wait a minute…Bloggers using Macs are less qualified than a full – time windows user to talk about windows?

    That’s the dumbest thing you’ve said in a while.

    Let’s see…FROM MY POWERBOOK, via the remote desktop client…I’ve been setting up a CVS repository for actuarial modeling software that runs in Eclipse on Windows. The repository runs on an Xserve. The authentication is all through AD for this box and the repository, which of course required me to set up the Windows ACLs for the various groups that are going to be using those repositories. I’ve also been researching CVS plugins for Visual Studio .Net 2003, (there aren’t any that work worth a crap with remote repositories accessed via SSH), so we’re deciding between WinCVS and Tortise. I want to see which one can handle kerberized SSH, so I can make the connection process part of our SSO infrastructure.

    Oh, realized that OrgPlus is a pile of shit, so we’re going to be testing Visio 2003, (great product, I’ve been using it since it was Viso 4, and a separate company), since it can pull org chart data direct from ODBC sources. If that works, we’re going to see about plugging it into some VBA code so it can update just by double-clicking a VB script.

    I recently schooled some Mac administrators on the excellence of AD management tools, the WMI interfaces for Active Directory, and the excellence that are The Scripting Guys.

    Nope, gawarsh, that there WIndows stuff is a complete bloody mystery to this poor Mac user…

    Robert, YOU may be a complete thicky on anything but windows, but do not, for one second assume that all Mac users are unable to grok windows. Quite a few of us have forgotten more about running Windows networks than you’ll ever know.

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  45. Wait a minute…Bloggers using Macs are less qualified than a full – time windows user to talk about windows?

    That’s the dumbest thing you’ve said in a while.

    Let’s see…FROM MY POWERBOOK, via the remote desktop client…I’ve been setting up a CVS repository for actuarial modeling software that runs in Eclipse on Windows. The repository runs on an Xserve. The authentication is all through AD for this box and the repository, which of course required me to set up the Windows ACLs for the various groups that are going to be using those repositories. I’ve also been researching CVS plugins for Visual Studio .Net 2003, (there aren’t any that work worth a crap with remote repositories accessed via SSH), so we’re deciding between WinCVS and Tortise. I want to see which one can handle kerberized SSH, so I can make the connection process part of our SSO infrastructure.

    Oh, realized that OrgPlus is a pile of shit, so we’re going to be testing Visio 2003, (great product, I’ve been using it since it was Viso 4, and a separate company), since it can pull org chart data direct from ODBC sources. If that works, we’re going to see about plugging it into some VBA code so it can update just by double-clicking a VB script.

    I recently schooled some Mac administrators on the excellence of AD management tools, the WMI interfaces for Active Directory, and the excellence that are The Scripting Guys.

    Nope, gawarsh, that there WIndows stuff is a complete bloody mystery to this poor Mac user…

    Robert, YOU may be a complete thicky on anything but windows, but do not, for one second assume that all Mac users are unable to grok windows. Quite a few of us have forgotten more about running Windows networks than you’ll ever know.

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  46. The question I have is Why do they use macs? They are technical writers, do they use Macs because they write? You can’t write on Windows? I think the theory is doomed, it just doesn’t pass Occam;s razor. The simplest explanation is that they use Macs because they are tech savvy and Windows sucks more. And before you get on me being a mac user, I remind you, I use Windows at work, Mac at home. I am also a Microsoft stock holder. Microsoft just isn’t willing to take the real risks anymore.

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  47. The question I have is Why do they use macs? They are technical writers, do they use Macs because they write? You can’t write on Windows? I think the theory is doomed, it just doesn’t pass Occam;s razor. The simplest explanation is that they use Macs because they are tech savvy and Windows sucks more. And before you get on me being a mac user, I remind you, I use Windows at work, Mac at home. I am also a Microsoft stock holder. Microsoft just isn’t willing to take the real risks anymore.

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  48. Well, you have to give Robert a break. He’s about to have to deal with the latest stupidity from Redmond:

    http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=172302918&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_news

    Jesus…just how stupid are the people running the WM division? Between this and WiMP Mac, (Does WM 11 mean that the Mac version will be allowed to support WM10?), has anyone thought to tell the WM people that you’re not ACTUALLY supposed to be run by chimps?

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  49. Well, you have to give Robert a break. He’s about to have to deal with the latest stupidity from Redmond:

    http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=172302918&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_news

    Jesus…just how stupid are the people running the WM division? Between this and WiMP Mac, (Does WM 11 mean that the Mac version will be allowed to support WM10?), has anyone thought to tell the WM people that you’re not ACTUALLY supposed to be run by chimps?

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  50. One of the things I love about Dvorak (other than he gets no spam) is his consistency. Three weeks ago on a TWiT cast, Dvorak was telling the audience he expects Mac to end up with a 20 share of the PC market with it’s migration to Intel. And he seemed to suggest this was a good thing.

    Now in PC Mag, it’s all about how all these writers are using a Mac & therefore Msft isn’t treated fairly? Maybe they just want to stay ahead of the curve, John. (I own four PCs running XP and 4 Macs – three running Jaguar & my 15″ running Tiger.)

    Robert, I’d read your blog even if you worked for Yahoo!

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  51. One of the things I love about Dvorak (other than he gets no spam) is his consistency. Three weeks ago on a TWiT cast, Dvorak was telling the audience he expects Mac to end up with a 20 share of the PC market with it’s migration to Intel. And he seemed to suggest this was a good thing.

    Now in PC Mag, it’s all about how all these writers are using a Mac & therefore Msft isn’t treated fairly? Maybe they just want to stay ahead of the curve, John. (I own four PCs running XP and 4 Macs – three running Jaguar & my 15″ running Tiger.)

    Robert, I’d read your blog even if you worked for Yahoo!

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  52. If 99% of media people use Macs, then isn’t Dvorak of the idiots left behind? The reality is most professionals in the know prefer MacOS over Windows. Maybe Dvorak finally realized that.

    Robert, may be Microsoft should try to release some real products to get some attention instead of hiring cheerleaders like you.

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  53. If 99% of media people use Macs, then isn’t Dvorak of the idiots left behind? The reality is most professionals in the know prefer MacOS over Windows. Maybe Dvorak finally realized that.

    Robert, may be Microsoft should try to release some real products to get some attention instead of hiring cheerleaders like you.

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  54. Makes perfect sense to me, just like the heavy liberalish-Establishment-elitest, media-concentration in NYC, which views Middle America as hayseed or flyover country; this colors all such reportage of said issues. The heavy Mac presence among the scribes will invariability produce subtle changes, even unintentional. The amount of ink Apple gets is well out-of-range even for it’s hits. Evidence of this is obvious, every chair-throwing bit, is reported endlessly until it’s perceptionally true. But they gloss over the near-daily Steve Jobs megalomania lunancy. JCD just sees the obvious, and anyone that dares paint him as a Redmond tool, hasn’t read him at all. That’s laughable.

    As for the reasons, why those are varied and complex. But the nature of the 2 companies is also a big factor, one announces years ahead and then clangs the vapor and case studies into your head until you are sick of it, and delivers half of what promised, way later. Microsoft promises you a 16 oz. grain-fed perfectly chef-mastered steak, and delivers half a Big Mac (cold at that), a year off schedule. Apple says nothing and gives you a Ponderosa steak, bit rough and not Ruth Chris per se with none of the trimmings, but then you are happy, as you didn’t have expectations set to be lowered.

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  55. Makes perfect sense to me, just like the heavy liberalish-Establishment-elitest, media-concentration in NYC, which views Middle America as hayseed or flyover country; this colors all such reportage of said issues. The heavy Mac presence among the scribes will invariability produce subtle changes, even unintentional. The amount of ink Apple gets is well out-of-range even for it’s hits. Evidence of this is obvious, every chair-throwing bit, is reported endlessly until it’s perceptionally true. But they gloss over the near-daily Steve Jobs megalomania lunancy. JCD just sees the obvious, and anyone that dares paint him as a Redmond tool, hasn’t read him at all. That’s laughable.

    As for the reasons, why those are varied and complex. But the nature of the 2 companies is also a big factor, one announces years ahead and then clangs the vapor and case studies into your head until you are sick of it, and delivers half of what promised, way later. Microsoft promises you a 16 oz. grain-fed perfectly chef-mastered steak, and delivers half a Big Mac (cold at that), a year off schedule. Apple says nothing and gives you a Ponderosa steak, bit rough and not Ruth Chris per se with none of the trimmings, but then you are happy, as you didn’t have expectations set to be lowered.

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  56. Dvorak does not, and has never cared about any reaction to his writing but one: that you do react, and strongly.

    He is, in a sense, a troll. He’s had nothing new or interesting to say for years. All he does is figure out what people like and bash it. If it doesn’t generate a ream of hate mail and hit counts, he finds something else. One day, he’ll figure out the writing patter to bash everything in such a way that it pisses everyone off, and he’ll template it, and change a name occasionally.

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  57. Dvorak does not, and has never cared about any reaction to his writing but one: that you do react, and strongly.

    He is, in a sense, a troll. He’s had nothing new or interesting to say for years. All he does is figure out what people like and bash it. If it doesn’t generate a ream of hate mail and hit counts, he finds something else. One day, he’ll figure out the writing patter to bash everything in such a way that it pisses everyone off, and he’ll template it, and change a name occasionally.

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  58. Apple bias? Oh please. Why isn’t the convicted and plea-bargained (to avoid conviction) monopolist described never described as such? Why is the plague of security holes not given the media attention it deserves? Why is a proprietary, single-source product “open” when it comes to Microsoft, but “closed and proprietary” when it comes to Apple? The media doesn’t want to focus on all the problems with Microsoft products, because the people that pay the bills don’t want to read about off the problems, because that would make it look like they made a mistake by choosing a Microsoft OS.

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  59. Apple bias? Oh please. Why isn’t the convicted and plea-bargained (to avoid conviction) monopolist described never described as such? Why is the plague of security holes not given the media attention it deserves? Why is a proprietary, single-source product “open” when it comes to Microsoft, but “closed and proprietary” when it comes to Apple? The media doesn’t want to focus on all the problems with Microsoft products, because the people that pay the bills don’t want to read about off the problems, because that would make it look like they made a mistake by choosing a Microsoft OS.

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